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I would like to say I was doing the same but I was shooting from the hip;)

You would know wouldn't you.

Well of course I do. Let's look at the death and destruction wreaked on the masses by governments throughout the ages. Who do you think killed everyone from Jesus to the Iraqis and everything else before and after. Governments. Sure, "terrorists" have killed people, there is no denying it, but until terrorists starte raking up the body count as high as governments I am not going to see them as the biggest danger. How many millions upon millions died in World War 1 and 2? Now have many millions have died at the hands of terrorists? Hundreds? The biggest, best and most well respected countries at this writing have killed more people than the terrorists. Look at 9-11 and 7-7. Ok, let's say the terrorists did it. Now look at all the people who have been killed in Iraq and Afghanistan. Yeah those 3,000 dead really justify at least twice that as many dead and ten times that in injuries, and that is just on the American side. Of course everyone will say it's for a "good cause", and we have no choice, but I see it as government killing people as usual. They always say the bodies piled high is for a "good cause". The terrorists use the same rhetoric, but someone it's different when my country does it? Evil is evil. Dead is dead. The only difference between me and you guys is this. You all think that if push comes to shove the big nice government will be nice to you because you have been good little nationalists and always did what you were told. If you look at history you would see the "just do what they say honey" crowd are the first ones put on the trains. The rebels are too much hassle....

That's a silly generalization. I guess people are all bad because all crimes have been committed by people. Or, all ships will sink because all sunken ships are, well, ships.

You look at the world through a very simple lens. Problem is that things are far more complicated.

Oh here comes the big brother apologist. 19 years? You probably got the boot since you could have retired at 20 or in a few more years, yet you still shine their shoes after they finishing making you there biitch for almost 2 decades. Wake up man, I did. You prove my point, you were in military intelligence for almost 2 decades and you are about as clueless as they come. You are nothing but a right wing cheerleader. Tell me this, have you ever had on original thought in your head? 19 years in eh? Tell me, where would you have ended up if you didn't have the government telling you what to do, what to wear, what to say, when to wake up, what kind of haircut to get. I see why people like you love the military so much, without big uncle sam holding you hand and telling you what to do you would be working at McDonalds.

That still makes my day knowing you of all people were in intel. How perfect is that. hahaha

I might afterall have to recant my opinon that Bush lied, I have been out of the military for well over a decade and I just forgot how stupid you all are. Now that the idiocy that is the military is all comming back to me (I tried to forget) I now see that Bush probably didn't have to look too hard over at the pentagon to some some pasty kids who would say "yes sir Mr. President sir, them Ragheads are makin nukes, it's an honor sir!, this is the best day of my life sir!" You geeks. Thanks for reminding me.

@Aramike It does no good to argue logically with the agitator formerly known as Flamingboat. The best thing we can do is ignore his attention seeking socially demented ravings and keep our blood pressure 10 or 20 points lower. Eventually, he will self destruct if no one pays him any attention.

Oh Aramike defender of all my freedoms tell me this. Why would you only do 19 years? At 20 you can retire at 50% pay if memory serves me correct. So what happened? Am I not the only one who doesn't exactly see eye to eye with the things you spout? Hmmm.... Inquiring minds want to know.

It's been said before, just because I am not a raving right wing nationalist doesn't mean I'm an agitator. This isn't even my thread.

Yeah. I figure he's compensating for something... Staring in the face of his own ignorance, he compounds it by trying to say that the rest of us are the dumb ones.

Clearly everyone here knows how this guy is. The Dunce Cap fits. The way I see it, when a person's IQ equals the slices on a medium pizza from Dominos, he's not worth getting worked up over.

Frankly, I'm betting the guy's probably just a highschool student out for attention. He probably thinks that, by being obnoxious, everyone will overlook his stupidity and allow him to be an online "bully", probably as compensation for the bullying he recieves in his daily life.

Heh, personally I'd think it'd be funny if everyone just put him on their ignore lists and let him spew his garbage to himself. :D

Oh look, another avalanche of petty insults from Aramike. By all means please lead by example and put me on your ignore list. I'm calling your bluff, put your money where your mouth is. You threatened to take your ball and go home in the shoe throwing thread but you didn't, now you are threatening to put me on your ignore list with a "yeah boys!?" looking over your shoulder. Take a look at this and the other post. You are the one hurling insult after insult at me. I've been having a normal conversation with people who don't agree with some of my points.

Anyone can plainly see you are the one causing problems with me, not the other way around. So stop TALKING about ignoring me, stop THREATENING to put me on your ignore list.

DO IT ALREADY.

P.S. If you don't man up and back up what you say with actions and you don't ignore me, how about a comment on the 19 year military career? I still want to know why someone stops a year or less from retirement. No one does that voluntarily.

Subchaser, you're delusional.

Oh, and care to show me where I threatened to put you on my ignore list? I said it would be funny if we all did. And I stand by that. I think it would be funny. I can just imagine your raging comments everywhere, with no one reading them. I bet you wouldn't even stop posting.

Didn't think you could show me where I said that.

Again, siddown.Nothing about me is your business.

But, just to be fun, I'll answer the question if anyone else asks. Not really interested in satisfying the innane curiousities of a dimwit.

Oh look at Aramike yelling "back emergency" on the ignore list. I read you like a cheap novel.

So you don't want to talk about your military career? You made a huge mistake giving me the 19 year number as you puffed your chest out. A huge mistake. Imagine, a military intelligence man making a mistake. he he. Aramike you bring me such joy. See that is such a fascinating number, 19 years. See because you could be getting retirement at 50% at 20 years. So there is no way you got discharged by your own free will that close to retirement. Anyone who could do 19 years could stick out another 365 or less days on their head. Something is amiss and since you don't want to talk about it, well, there it is. I wonder what it was. Flunked the PT test 10 years running? Violation of don't ask don't tell? Article 15s? General Court Martial? Maybe a little summary courtmartial. More than likely you just couldn't make promotion.

I knew many people in the brig. I knew a guy who was in navy intel for 30 years down to the guy right out of basic. The military is a funny thing, it's like a snake. You can care for it and love it and it will turn on you and bite you in a flash. One fight with the wife's boyfriend, one DUI, one little slip up and the military you served so passionately drops you like a hot rock. Don't worry, it happens.

If you were as smart as you claim to be you would have said "almost 2 decades" instead of showing me you got riffed at 19. I would have been none the wiser.

Ladies and gentleman, Military Intelligence at it's finest, let's give them a round of applause.

Aramike, you should have at least learned not to start fights with grunts or sailors in your 19 year career if anything.

Still thumping your chest, subchaser? I made a mistake by mentioning my 19 years in the military? LOL!!! You're not even smart enough to back up your own arguments. You certainly don't "scare" me. I've faced-off with bigger, better, and smarter.

Keep it coming ... its fun to imagine the veins in your neck popping out as you hammer out one long baseless rant after another, only to get disproven time and time again. It takes great talent to be such a hack.

You're a laughingstock. You're just not smart enough to know it.

Oh, and like I said, I'm more than willing to tell anyone anything about my military career (that I legally can, anyway). Just not going to answer you. So, if anyone (except subchaser12) is actually interested why I only did 19 years in, please ask.

Oh, and one more thing:If you consider any of this a "fight" its pretty clear you've never been in a real one. Bullies take too much of your milk money?

Are you for real? Man, this keeps getting better and better! Whatever you say there secret agent orange.

So this is what you do in between training for super secret missions, flame liberals and play submarine simulators?

Wow, this is awesome! I have known people who did interesting things that were secret in the military. Trust me they aren't on video game forums going "wink wink, nod nod, yeah man my whole existence is classified". Only me, the president, the queen and this video game forum know the true nature of my highly classified missions.

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HA HA HA :rotfl: