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subchaser12 12-11-08 03:19 AM
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Do Western constitutions allow to propagate their own destruction? If so, a major pillar of justification why to defend the state and it'S laws against threats, has fallen. I never believed in unlimited freedom, and I never believed in freedom as a general right.
Just as a frame of reference the American version of the neo nazi and white supremacist movements are powerless. It's not like in Europe where the neo nazis are scary. Here they are just poor white trash who own nothing but white skin. They are just disgruntled people who live in trailer parks who can only say "hey at least I ain't black!"

We have laws that allow you to say what you want but actions are illegal. When KKK members get arrested it isn't for their speech, it's for the kid they beat up at the mall or whatever.

Kapitan_Phillips 12-11-08 04:07 AM
*pulls up a chair and narrows eyes at everyone*

Skybird 12-11-08 04:08 AM
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Thus, you cannot be a Christian Nazi or a Nazi Christian - that is a contradiction in itself.
Contradiction and religion go hand in hand. Contradiction is unavoidable when you start talking about invisible wizards in the sky that made the earth in 6 days or whatever. I understand where you are comming from but I don't agree. Technically you are correct; however this would be like telling a normal law abiding family they aren't Christians because they rolled up to church in their 60,000$ SUV. How about the pope sitting on his empire of gold built on the blood and sweat of his followers?

I know the neo nazis aren't the standard bearer of the Christian religion but they are on the member roster like it or not.
As I said, "church" and "Christian" are two different things. The church claims to be Christian, but is not in the meaning of the word, while Jesus very likely would not like a bit in what he would have to see in the church. As a matter of fact he was a threat to the estaiblished elite of theologists of his time, and those making a business of religion, both salesmen and pharisees.

And whom you are telling about the inner contradiction of religion here - hey, it's me - Skybird! :lol: ;)

Skybird 12-11-08 04:10 AM
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*pulls up a chair and narrows eyes at everyone*
Remember your new sig. IDIC, man, IDIC! :lol:

Kapitan_Phillips 12-11-08 04:28 AM
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*pulls up a chair and narrows eyes at everyone*
Remember your new sig. IDIC, man, IDIC! :lol:
:lol:

Biggles 12-11-08 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Subnuts
Yeah, I know about freedom of speech and all, but I'm awfully tempted to just start ripping down the signs and trashing them.
Although they have all the right to put them up (?), surely you have all the right to take them down.....right?

OneToughHerring 12-11-08 12:40 PM
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On a related note, why do so many white supremacists consider themselves Christians? As if a Nazi would accept a Middle Eastern Jew who loved and forgave everyone as their Lord and Savior. :roll:
At least in USA the reason neo-nazis start churches is because churches are protected by a certain type of legislation, correct me if I'm wrong, and therefore they are able to function as a religion instead of just as a hate organisation. Also, Christian Identity is a kind of religious background for a lot of US neo-nazis.

August 12-11-08 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by OneToughHerring
...churches are protected by a certain type of legislation...
Churches don't pay taxes is probably what you are thinking of.

bookworm_020 12-11-08 04:40 PM
When I saw th title for this thread I thought of theline out of the Blues Brothers movie about Nazis! IF only you could do what they did in the movies in real life!:-?

Thomen 12-11-08 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Mikhayl
I don't get American nazis, I mean, Germans had all the cheesy nordic descent legend to go by, but what with US nazis, they're likely to have family members who fought during WWII :doh: Kind of like Polish nazis, always makes me think "wtf?" when I hear/read about some, really the cream of the freaks.
Well.. Nazis aren't the smartest ones, seriously... i knew a Turk in Germany who was running around with the Neo Nazi crowds yelling: "Auslaender Raus!" (Foreigners Out, or Foreigner Go Home)

Edit: What pisses me off, is when I see those loonie wannabee Nazi's here in the States that they think it is cool to run around with a German flag. Mind you, not just the swastika one, but I mean the current, Black, Red and Gold one.

Letum 12-11-08 04:57 PM
Pfft! Racial supremacy in the world's biggest genetic melting pot.
I doubt many American's can trace all their family roots back to Europe, let alone to
the South Asian Ayrians.

subchaser12 12-11-08 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Letum
Pfft! Racial supremacy in the world's biggest genetic melting pot.
I doubt many American's can trace all their family roots back to Europe, let alone to
the South Asian Ayrians.
I'm 25% American Indian so I wouldn't count as a "pure" breed. Of course if I went to a Klan rally no one would notice anything unusual.

Letum 12-11-08 05:08 PM
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Pfft! Racial supremacy in the world's biggest genetic melting pot.
I doubt many American's can trace all their family roots back to Europe, let alone to
the South Asian Ayrians.
I'm 25% American Indian so I wouldn't count as a "pure" breed. Of course if I went to a Klan rally no one would notice anything unusual.
:hmm: If anyone is the superior race, it is us mongrels! For the same reason mongrel dogs
live longer than many pure breeds.

Still, I think the Welsh go a little too far in their attempts at diversifying the gene pool...

bookworm_020 12-11-08 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Mikhayl
I don't get American nazis, I mean, Germans had all the cheesy nordic descent legend to go by, but what with US nazis, they're likely to have family members who fought during WWII :doh: Kind of like Polish nazis, always makes me think "wtf?" when I hear/read about some, really the cream of the freaks.
Well there was the case of the neo-nazis that were found in Israel!:huh: Now that can do your head in!:doh:

OneToughHerring 12-12-08 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by August
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...churches are protected by a certain type of legislation...
Churches don't pay taxes is probably what you are thinking of.
Well I'm sure they don't mind that. Might be a good way to launder money etc. I remember there being something else too, like that when they are recognizing a kind of religion and are members of a church instead of just being nazis they will be treated differently in the court where they might easily end up, eventually. I'll have to read up on this when I find the time and the material, I'm sort of interested in this stuff.

Not sure what the situation is with European neo-nazis, they very much do exist, I've witnessed some wanna-be skinhead thugs up close and person. :stare:


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