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OneToughHerring 08-27-08 10:15 AM

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Yes I know he was a democrat. In hindsight he didn't really seem like a smart one though, the whole mess was probably why he didn't seek re-election.

So we can agree then that Vietnam was a Democrat boondoggle that cost the lives of 10 times as many Americans as the GoP war in Iraq?

Well I call it an American "boondoggle" but that's just me. Democrats and Republicans are just the same thing in somewhat different packages, it's like choosing between the Gambino and the Genovesi - crime families.

You would really compare them to gansters?
Why dont you tell more how the world should be?
How have you contributed to improve the community, society and the world you live in?

Yes I compare them to gangsters.
Oh you're angry. Why does US politics make you so angry?
Well let's put it this way, if someone has the power to start a war then I expect those people to use that power with caution. Average people don't have that power but politicians and possibly big business tycoons have that power.

Happy Times 08-27-08 10:20 AM

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Yes I know he was a democrat. In hindsight he didn't really seem like a smart one though, the whole mess was probably why he didn't seek re-election.

So we can agree then that Vietnam was a Democrat boondoggle that cost the lives of 10 times as many Americans as the GoP war in Iraq?

Well I call it an American "boondoggle" but that's just me. Democrats and Republicans are just the same thing in somewhat different packages, it's like choosing between the Gambino and the Genovesi - crime families.

You would really compare them to gansters?
Why dont you tell more how the world should be?
How have you contributed to improve the community, society and the world you live in?

Yes I compare them to gangsters.
Oh you're angry. Why does US politics make you so angry?
Well let's put it this way, if someone has the power to start a war then I expect those people to use that power with caution. Average people don't have that power but politicians and possibly big business tycoons have that power.

What makes me angry is people that "know" how the world should be but they dont do anything about it.
And i prefer that matters of war is something average people dont have a saying.
Can you tell what have you contributed to the society so far?

OneToughHerring 08-27-08 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by August
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Yes I know he was a democrat. In hindsight he didn't really seem like a smart one though, the whole mess was probably why he didn't seek re-election.

So we can agree then that Vietnam was a Democrat boondoggle that cost the lives of 10 times as many Americans as the GoP war in Iraq?

Well I call it an American "boondoggle" but that's just me. Democrats and Republicans are just the same thing in somewhat different packages, it's like choosing between the Gambino and the Genovesi - crime families.

You would really compare them to gansters?
Why dont you tell more how the world should be?
How have you contributed to improve the community, society and the world you live in?

Yes I compare them to gangsters.
Oh you're angry. Why does US politics make you so angry?
Well let's put it this way, if someone has the power to start a war then I expect those people to use that power with caution. Average people don't have that power but politicians and possibly big business tycoons have that power.

What makes me angry is people that "know" how the world should be but they dont do anything about it.
And i prefer that matters of war is something average people dont have a saying.
Can you tell what have you contributed to the society so far?

What makes you think I'm not doing anything about it? Do you mean like the guys who almost took a shot at Obama, that type of thing, perchance? How have you contributed to the society then? Give me an example of a good contribution to the society so I'll know what you mean.

August 08-27-08 10:27 AM

Well I may not agree with Democrats but I do not question their motives or their patriotism. Such distinctions may not be that evident though, especially to foreigners following things through the media.

August 08-27-08 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Mikhayl
Don't American follow things through the medias as well ? :D
Just kidding, I know what you mean (well I think)

Oh I'm sure you do Mik. Just ask yourself how often does the foreign media accurately portray political situations in France and how often the domestic French media blow things out of proportion.

Happy Times 08-27-08 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by August
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Originally Posted by OneToughHerring
Yes I know he was a democrat. In hindsight he didn't really seem like a smart one though, the whole mess was probably why he didn't seek re-election.

So we can agree then that Vietnam was a Democrat boondoggle that cost the lives of 10 times as many Americans as the GoP war in Iraq?

Well I call it an American "boondoggle" but that's just me. Democrats and Republicans are just the same thing in somewhat different packages, it's like choosing between the Gambino and the Genovesi - crime families.

You would really compare them to gansters?
Why dont you tell more how the world should be?
How have you contributed to improve the community, society and the world you live in?

Yes I compare them to gangsters.
Oh you're angry. Why does US politics make you so angry?
Well let's put it this way, if someone has the power to start a war then I expect those people to use that power with caution. Average people don't have that power but politicians and possibly big business tycoons have that power.

What makes me angry is people that "know" how the world should be but they dont do anything about it.
And i prefer that matters of war is something average people dont have a saying.
Can you tell what have you contributed to the society so far?

What makes you think I'm not doing anything about it? Do you mean like the guys who almost took a shot at Obama, that type of thing, perchance? How have you contributed to the society then? Give me an example of a good contribution to the society so I'll know what you mean.

Do you vote? Do you belong to a party? Have you worked in a campaign? Do you keep in touch with politicians? Do you work? Do you pay taxes? Do you take part in collections and charity? Do you give blood?
Those are some things i take as my responsibilities as a citizen, it fits my evil right-wing world wiew.

Happy Times 08-27-08 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Mikhayl
Don't American follow things through the medias as well ? :D
Just kidding, I know what you mean (well I think)

Btw, HT, criticising society is a valuable contribution in itself, providing said society is aimed toward the happiness of its people and not toward the wellness of a few.

Yes, but sometimes it seems for some people its the only thing they can do.

OneToughHerring 08-27-08 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by OneToughHerring
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Originally Posted by Happy Times
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Originally Posted by August
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Originally Posted by OneToughHerring
Yes I know he was a democrat. In hindsight he didn't really seem like a smart one though, the whole mess was probably why he didn't seek re-election.

So we can agree then that Vietnam was a Democrat boondoggle that cost the lives of 10 times as many Americans as the GoP war in Iraq?

Well I call it an American "boondoggle" but that's just me. Democrats and Republicans are just the same thing in somewhat different packages, it's like choosing between the Gambino and the Genovesi - crime families.

You would really compare them to gansters?
Why dont you tell more how the world should be?
How have you contributed to improve the community, society and the world you live in?

Yes I compare them to gangsters.
Oh you're angry. Why does US politics make you so angry?
Well let's put it this way, if someone has the power to start a war then I expect those people to use that power with caution. Average people don't have that power but politicians and possibly big business tycoons have that power.

What makes me angry is people that "know" how the world should be but they dont do anything about it.
And i prefer that matters of war is something average people dont have a saying.
Can you tell what have you contributed to the society so far?

What makes you think I'm not doing anything about it? Do you mean like the guys who almost took a shot at Obama, that type of thing, perchance? How have you contributed to the society then? Give me an example of a good contribution to the society so I'll know what you mean.

Do you vote? Do you belong to a party? Have you worked in a campaign? Do you keep in touch with politicians? Do you work? Do you pay taxes? Do you take part in collections and charity? Do you give blood?
Those are some things i take as my responsibilities as a citizen, it fits my evil right wing world wiew.

Answers: Vote: yes. Party: used to, not anymore, if by belonging to a party you mean holding a member card etc. Campaigned: yes. Keep in touch with politicians: not really, I would if there were worthwhile politicians who might respond to worthwhile issues. Work: have but right now in between jobs. Taxes: too much. Charity: yes but I'm pretty selective of the charity organisation, I try to avoid the private organisations that may have some hidden agendas. Give blood: Yes. Although only five times so far, actually been planning on a donation right now. Blood plasma is a pretty expensive product and it can be a lifesaver to someone in an accident. Here we do it for free but for example in states they pay blood donators.

And how about you answer those questions too.

Happy Times 08-27-08 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by August
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Originally Posted by OneToughHerring
Yes I know he was a democrat. In hindsight he didn't really seem like a smart one though, the whole mess was probably why he didn't seek re-election.

So we can agree then that Vietnam was a Democrat boondoggle that cost the lives of 10 times as many Americans as the GoP war in Iraq?

Well I call it an American "boondoggle" but that's just me. Democrats and Republicans are just the same thing in somewhat different packages, it's like choosing between the Gambino and the Genovesi - crime families.

You would really compare them to gansters?
Why dont you tell more how the world should be?
How have you contributed to improve the community, society and the world you live in?

Yes I compare them to gangsters.
Oh you're angry. Why does US politics make you so angry?
Well let's put it this way, if someone has the power to start a war then I expect those people to use that power with caution. Average people don't have that power but politicians and possibly big business tycoons have that power.

What makes me angry is people that "know" how the world should be but they dont do anything about it.
And i prefer that matters of war is something average people dont have a saying.
Can you tell what have you contributed to the society so far?

What makes you think I'm not doing anything about it? Do you mean like the guys who almost took a shot at Obama, that type of thing, perchance? How have you contributed to the society then? Give me an example of a good contribution to the society so I'll know what you mean.

Do you vote? Do you belong to a party? Have you worked in a campaign? Do you keep in touch with politicians? Do you work? Do you pay taxes? Do you take part in collections and charity? Do you give blood?
Those are some things i take as my responsibilities as a citizen, it fits my evil right wing world wiew.

Answers: Vote: yes. Party: used to, not anymore, if by belonging to a party you mean holding a member card etc. Campaigned: yes. Keep in touch with politicians: not really, I would if there were worthwhile politicians who might respond to worthwhile issues. Work: have but right now in between jobs. Taxes: too much. Charity: yes but I'm pretty selective of the charity organisation, I try to avoid the private organisations that may have some hidden agendas. Give blood: Yes. Although only five times so far, actually been planning on a donation right now. Blood plasma is a pretty expensive product and it can be a lifesaver to someone in an accident. Here we do it for free but for example in states they pay blood donators.

And how about you answer those questions too.

"Those are some things i take as my responsibilities as a citizen."

OneToughHerring 08-27-08 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Happy Times
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Originally Posted by Mikhayl
Don't American follow things through the medias as well ? :D
Just kidding, I know what you mean (well I think)

Btw, HT, criticising society is a valuable contribution in itself, providing said society is aimed toward the happiness of its people and not toward the wellness of a few.

Yes, but sometimes it seems for some people its the only thing they can do.

Arbeit macht frei etc., eh? Beginning to see your motives there.

Happy Times 08-27-08 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by OneToughHerring
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Originally Posted by Happy Times
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Originally Posted by Mikhayl
Don't American follow things through the medias as well ? :D
Just kidding, I know what you mean (well I think)

Btw, HT, criticising society is a valuable contribution in itself, providing said society is aimed toward the happiness of its people and not toward the wellness of a few.

Yes, but sometimes it seems for some people its the only thing they can do.

Arbeit macht frei etc., eh? Beginning to see your motives there.

What motives?

OneToughHerring 08-27-08 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Happy Times
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Originally Posted by OneToughHerring
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Originally Posted by Happy Times
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Originally Posted by Mikhayl
Don't American follow things through the medias as well ? :D
Just kidding, I know what you mean (well I think)

Btw, HT, criticising society is a valuable contribution in itself, providing said society is aimed toward the happiness of its people and not toward the wellness of a few.

Yes, but sometimes it seems for some people its the only thing they can do.

Arbeit macht frei etc., eh? Beginning to see your motives there.

What motives?

You're motives for thinking the way you do.

Happy Times 08-27-08 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by OneToughHerring
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Originally Posted by Happy Times
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Originally Posted by OneToughHerring
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Originally Posted by Happy Times
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Originally Posted by Mikhayl
Don't American follow things through the medias as well ? :D
Just kidding, I know what you mean (well I think)

Btw, HT, criticising society is a valuable contribution in itself, providing said society is aimed toward the happiness of its people and not toward the wellness of a few.

Yes, but sometimes it seems for some people its the only thing they can do.

Arbeit macht frei etc., eh? Beginning to see your motives there.

What motives?

You're motives for thinking the way you do.

And they are?
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Arbeit macht frei etc
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OneToughHerring 08-27-08 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Happy Times
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Originally Posted by OneToughHerring
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Originally Posted by Happy Times
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Originally Posted by Mikhayl
Don't American follow things through the medias as well ? :D
Just kidding, I know what you mean (well I think)

Btw, HT, criticising society is a valuable contribution in itself, providing said society is aimed toward the happiness of its people and not toward the wellness of a few.

Yes, but sometimes it seems for some people its the only thing they can do.

Arbeit macht frei etc., eh? Beginning to see your motives there.

What motives?

You're motives for thinking the way you do.

And they are?
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Arbeit macht frei etc
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Right-wing/racist views. You seem to have a problem with how some people think, to me that's a sign of fascism.

August 08-27-08 01:55 PM

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Btw, HT, criticising society is a valuable contribution in itself, providing said society is aimed toward the happiness of its people and not toward the wellness of a few.

And providing said criticism is constructive. Criticism for the sake of criticism is counter productive.


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