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sergbuto 08-22-08 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by August
Yeah but who makes up the government if not the people they govern?

Yes, that's right, but I've seen in very many cases how being in power changes people to the worse (some of those used to be friends of mine).

Hawk66 08-22-08 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by August
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Originally Posted by Mikhayl
Sure I'm French, doesn't mean I can't criticise France does it ? When I say NATO I mean it as a whole, otherwise I could have just said "the US" :D

I don't mean anything bad, it's just interesting this ability for people, Europeans especially, to act like their government is some kind of independent entity completely separate from the people.

In Germany too it's quite common that the people do not identify themselves with their government.

As almost all things this has a positive and a negative effect: The positive effect is that the government is strictly monitored but the negative part is that a considerable amount of people trust more non-government organizations which have their own goals and are not more trust-worthy (or even less)

One major example for this is that a majority of Germans deny the military engagement in Afghanistan and therefore it is very tough for the German government to reduce the Rules of Engagement regulations and the scope of the engagement.

August 08-22-08 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Digital_Trucker
I might beg to differ with the idea that anyone can be elected to the highest offices in government. Check out what is spent buying the presidency or a seat in Congress.

What is spent is other peoples money, donations and contributions, etc. Yeah you got people like Hillary donating millions in her own campaign but that was only because her contributions dried up.

Maybe i'm misunderstanding you DT.

Digital_Trucker 08-22-08 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by August
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Originally Posted by Digital_Trucker
I might beg to differ with the idea that anyone can be elected to the highest offices in government. Check out what is spent buying the presidency or a seat in Congress.

What is spent is other peoples money, donations and contributions, etc. Yeah you got people like Hillary donating millions in her own campaign but that was only because her contributions dried up.

Maybe i'm misunderstanding you DT.

Well, yes, it is mostly other peoples money, but you have to have connections to get those other people to donate money and connections require money. I might blow my own theory out of the water, but I wonder what the least net worth of any person holding a seat in Congress is?


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