I'm sure you know that joke about two Russkies tankmen in Paris and air-war.

Thats after the british chieftain's pulled them out of the sand bogs :P (had to get that one in a friend of mine who served in both gulf wars in the RE remembers very well pulling M1A1 tanks out of trouble)

Yeah...

To be fair, according to the article it is $23 billion/year on new hardware - that is, this is only the procurement budget, not counting the personnel budget or the training budget which takes up a huge chunk of most militaries fees.

Of course, we don't know how much of this $23 billion has to be invested onto things like rebuilding the production lines, or whether it is all meant just for buying and the money for the production lines is in another budget.

Even if only $23 billion actually makes it to real equipment, that's still a lot. That's like 6 or so carriers, or over 100 fighters as expensive as a F-22...

That is in American prices, they will be significantly cheaper for Russians.

As I said - not much.

-S

It still costs the same for the same capability. If it takes 100 T-72's to knock out 4 M1's, then what are you buying?

-S

Compared to West the difference isnt that great.

Hahaha! Go look at Georgia! There is no organization there! An organized Army could wipe them out with lesser equipment!

And the 50 T-72's were Iraq's best - Rebuplican Guard or whatever they called it. Probably better than a majority of Russia's soldiers. They had organization.

-S

PS. To watch the Russians in Georgia reminded me of Iran and throwing bodies to the front. Maybe that is where Iran got the tactics from?

Oh really? Where?

The strenghts and weaknesses of Russian army are well analysed, the things you mentioned just werent their strenghts.

Blinders.

-S

Their training, tactics, logistics, methods are moderate, weak or rigid, hence they are very readable.

Their equipment goes from excellent to substandart, i wouldnt go to war with anything bigger that Georgia.

Their troops morale goes from excellent to substandart, depending on scenario, for motherland im sure they will give a fight.

So no direct comparison, but if they had invaded Kuwait they would have suffered the same fate.

Hey guys, forget about Abrams!
You wanna stop Russkiy tanks?
Do like this:
http://content.foto.mail.ru/list/t34...ons/i-1470.jpg
Muhhhhhh! and they stopped.

Oh, they took the cattle withem from the base.:up:

"Fresh milk boys, come and take a squoze!"

Yep, fresh milk, fresh air.
It's very healthy:rock: