Yes - but that is after the above posts. Go a little farther back! Start with Enigma. Then you joined him.

or did you forget already?

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Like Santa!

I do. Did you listen to the Enron guys when they were laughing on the phone about cutting the power in Cali? They were all bailing and they said they were all going into oil. Guess what? They did!

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Even if that was the case aren't you acting a bit childish?

HE DID IT SO I DID IT TOO!!111!one

#1 Saying I hate you is libel. An untrue statement or an opinion stated as fact.

#2 Lists of members or things related to that cause flame wars and factions to form. Thus banned on many forums.
etc..

For you Zachstar because I am trying to have a normal conversation regardless that you guys feel the need to attack me.

This is a very left leaning magazine. Skybirds favorite. Skybird even posted this article here before in the GT thread, but I am reposting it for you so you know where I am coming from:

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...538412,00.html

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Oh man *sigh*.......

So you are one of these people who thinks the value of oil is under 100 and "dark markets" are conspiring to raise prices and destroy the poor?

No - not at all. Just defending myself. This is what is childish:

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See my Skybird / Spiegel post.

it has nothing to do with destroying the poor, but raping everyone for their last cent by a few evil people.

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I will trudge through this pile of crap but I can already tell it is exactly that.

Anyone saying there is "dark markets" etc.. Is just trying to find excuses to not face the cold hard fact that cheap oil is running out. That China is growing faster than you can say "WTF mate!" It is a REAL problem on forums like DU when data showing quota failures from OPEC from Russia and other areas is often laughed by a small group at and said is made up "just in time" to raise prices.

The real value of oil is over 100 USD. Accept it! Move on!!

Spiegel, "very left leaning magazine" ? :doh:

Well read it and take it or leave it. It is only 2 pages long. It opens up your eyes to many things. I'm not saying the oil companies don't like what happened, but they are not the cause, just one of the benefactors.

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Ok I read that pile of horse droppings and now my eyes want to bleed.

This is the same type of conspiricy style writing that the moon hoaxers use.

BTW, The next time you want to display a news item as "evidence" please be sure it is atleast semi-recent.

Wooo man subman I just do not know what to say. First GW is a conspiricy and now Oil prices are a conspiracy.


In my view and I am not a doctor so it is an opinion. I think you need to get examined. You know.. See if the clock is turning clockwise up there?

Feb 2008 is fairly recent.

Why don't you ask Skybird about it since i cannot obvioulsy open your eyes to anything no matter how overwhelming the evidence. You think I'm too far right to have a correct opinion, so ask someone who is really far left what they think. Sound like an idea? It is the only way to see eye to eye.

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Ok first of all I am no fan of Skybird's.. I don't know where you got that idea but regardless it is wrong.

2nd I am not some "Far Left" person. I am a "Progressive" Which is right of liberal and slightly left of libertarian. Get it right!

And there is no "Eye Opening" on this. I have done my homework. And what is causing the prices is not "dark markets" but falling supply (Like the recent OPEC quota failure) and RAPIDLY growing demand (Recent article about citizens of china falling in love with SUVs and Trucks)

Then you didn't do your homework as you claim.

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