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How would I do that,put the 6th eel back;)say for a special mission?:yep:

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Originally Posted by Danelov

"If you're going to say things like "five like the reals IIA and IIDs", please show a source that proves this. We would like to know."

-Submarines of WWII by Erminio Bagnasco(Arms and Armour Press)
-The U-Boat Offensive 1914-1945 by V.E.Tarrant(Arms and Armour Press)
-U-Boat Ace The story of Wolfgang Lüth by Jordan Vause(Airlife Press)
-So War Der U-boot Krieg by Harald Busch(Deuscher Heimat-Verlag)
-Jäger-Gejagte by Jochen Brennecke(Koehler Verlagsgesellschaft)
-Die Deutsche Kriegsmarine-Band 3 By Siegfried Breyer and Gerhard Koop(Podzun Pallas Verlag)

Etc, etc, or more easy,direct with Uboat.net
http://uboat.net/types/iid.htm

There also many related details of missions or patrols, Wolfgang Lüth U-138, Kretschmer in U-23,for example, about this five torpedos in the types II.

U-boat.net uses information that they got second-hand, who knows where? I can show at least one other reference of theirs that is definitely wrong. I have Submarines of World War II, and it doesn't mention loadouts at all. Do any of those books you show cite an original source? They all qualify as secondary, and there is a chance that they quote each other.

Don't get me wrong: I think it's five as well. There's just a big difference between saying "All the sources I can find say this", and saying with absolute finality "This is so!"

I'm still looking for a true original source.

One source I'm adhering to of late states 5, but room for a 6th if sacrifices are made to other stowage provision:

Ubootwaffe, Marine-Kleinkampfverbande, 39-45, Waldemar Trojca. http://www.psionguild.org/forums/ima...ies/pirate.gif

The description of the Type II family in U-Boats Under the Swastika (Jak P. Mallman Showell, Naval Institute Press 1989, ISBN 0-87021-970-7) states that all carried five torpedoes (or 18 mines). The idea that six could be shipped for special missions by giving up living space/rations or whatever is not unreasonable IMO.
Good Hunting

bumped to the top for Nik.

thanks for the instructions Mikayl! :rock:

Thank you gord96,have been away from the intermong due to my puter lunching its hard drive:cry::nope:so I missed this,cheers to Mikhayl for the detailed help as well:up:

I just upgraded from a type IIA to the type IID. It's November 1939 and with two succesful patrols in the bag, I though I'd give Gunther et al a run for their money. I must say that after patrol after patrol of stalk, aim, salvo fire in tanker alley, it was nice to have to pay attention to how I aim every single torpedo.

The little type IID really hones the kaptain's skill.

Oh yes, this little baby is something! Here's a little incident:

During Weserübung I was cruising near Bodo in my U-141. I got a map contact about an enemy task force heading to Narvik fjord. I decided to follow, hoping to catch them on the way back. The weather was awful, heavy wind and rain. So there I was, heading up the fjord, when suddenly a destroyer appears at 600 m (kinda poor visibility). And another. And another, all steaming towards me.

Uh-oh. Dive.

And when I'm diving, the Nelson emerges from the rain, bearing 90, 7kts, with yet another three escorts. I remain at periscope depth, go ahead flank, make a tight turn to the left, end up pointing straight towards the Nelson with 90 Aob and fire a salvo of three at her main guns at 500 m. And down she went, with a bang!

Now all I had to do was to shake those 6-7 escorts... But surprisingly, it wasn't even hard. Bad weather, 1940, a IID and 120m of water did the trick and I escaped without a scratch! There was a close call though, the damn battleship carcass almost fell on me, I guess it missed me with about 50 m:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3251/...e19495c2_o.jpg

Gotta love this boat. I guess I would have been killed a few times there if I had been in a VII.

this little boat turned me from a lousy shot, into a submarine sharpshooter, LOL...:rock: