Or, Better yet, an Allied flag flying over the ship?

Amazing Xantro...outstanding work:o :huh: :o :huh: :huh: :o !!!
But all these Flakvierling mountings all over the ship...:hmm: ...i remember more single mountings, and there weren't any mountings at all in front of the forward heavy turret.

Rough image...but the AA positions are clearly visible

http://www.geocities.com/pentagon/28...afspeedata.jpg

Hope this could help you in some ways:D ...

Why an Allied flag:o ? Sometimes these ships used to steam under false flag to approach Allied ships unaware of their nationality and intentions...before raising the KM flag and stop the ship with a shot across its bow:arrgh!: ...but I don't think this is moddable in the game:damn: ...and then enemy ships will immediately recognise you as enemy:dead: .

Usually, pocket battleships used to sail with the central barrel of each heavy turret trained with a 30 degrees elevation, to give the impression of having four turrets, to disguise themselves as a british old battleship.

obviously these tricks worked only with some :88) merchant ship lookouts.

An allied flag?

This is a german battleship, and it's built for the u-boat campaign right?

I was referring to the false flag thing, I know it wouldn't be possible to change the flag during the game but w/e...

Don't know if this helps but I wanted to help out someway?
 

Pictures of Graf Spee & Admiral Scheer -close up

http://www.admiralgrafspee.de/admira...disquise04.jpg

http://www.admiralgrafspee.de/admira...disquise03.jpg

http://www.bismarck-class.dk/shipmod...erbonomi06.jpg

http://www.bismarck-class.dk/shipmod...erbonomi08.jpg

http://www.bismarck-class.dk/shipmod...eetitsch08.jpg

http://www.bismarck-class.dk/shipmod...eetitsch09.jpg

Here's the AA arrangement of the Admiral Graf Spee, I've marked all the spots where she had her AA guns, note that the 2 2cm guns under the rear 11" turret are not in the correct place at the ingame model, also there's a few extra guns in the ingame model that dont exist.

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/2217/grafaala3.gif

these are the 2cm guns

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/4330/2cmplanux7.gif

and these are the 3,7cm guns, note that the 3,7cm guns are duals and that's why they are 8 in 4 emplacements.

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/5092/37cmplanqt7.gif

Here you can clearly see what I ment about the rear AA guns

http://www.maritimequest.com/warship...af_spee_17.JPG


Anyways, I'm doing some more research, if you need anything dont hesitate to ask. As usual, I'l be around :)

I want it for sure, but I have to have a look at it:yep:

Never ever on my German Crusier I will give an allied flag!

Ha I know..on this ship there is no Vierling...:rotfl:
But I haven't spend time into the flags until now and they are on this positions, cause I used my fubuki class as a basic...

And thanks for the images!


Thanks for the images you all and Thanks for the AA gun info Marco!:up:

Oh another thing, in that last image I uploaded you can see that there's a missing 2cm AA gun near the torpedo tubes but if you take a closer look the emplacement is there so I guess they were detachable.

The 8 25mm are Deck Guns???

This will be fun blowing merchies out of the water with a pocket battleship. It will be fun to scrap it up with some allied DD's and CA's, too.

There's no 25mm guns on there, if you mean the 2cm ones they're all singles and I believe there's some avaliable for the U-Boats.

EDIT: Just checked again and they're the same as the ones the stock IXD2 brings along on the campain mounted on the conning tower.

:p Thats the reason I built it or?
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No I mean the ones u forgot on the first picture...
they have an barrel...they are similar to the double dg's of my destroyer but only one canon:lol:

The Graf Spee didnt have any other AA guns, they're all at that first image.

EDIT: Maybe you ment the secondary guns, those are 15cm guns, there's 8 of them 4 on each side of the ship. They are not used as AA, they're anti-ship guns.

That's what I mean;)

But I only got 88mm double guns anstett of the 105mm...
may this changed in war..

Soo...now we got arround 40% of the guns working
My Porblem is, that I need one playable flak and one playable Deck gun.
The Flak is not the Problem, because there are the same flaks playable and I can use them:)
Behind the Ai Flaks are 3d people standing
Also there are 18 guys running arround now(they are usually ijn guys but u dont see that:arrgh!: (same ijn gyus used on graf spee/deutschland in game)

Oh I forgot to set the High Res watchcrew, but first my Guns.


Should I add a german 105mm Sub Deck gun on a seperate place or schould I hit it into the model?/may like in my DD?