Wow $128, I think I'll give it a miss for now!:yep:

i think you guys should settle down, so what if someone makes a mod that the germans win the war? they didnt in real life, they killed millions of our lads, many including my gramp's closest friends... but we kicked their ass in the end.

the point is, this game is A GAME, and for the sake of making new u boat bases, and maybe even some new ships and uboats, you've gone in a pissyfit saying "omg theres a picture of hitler visiting the lincoln memorial!!!!:damn:

i see hundreds of swazzy's on this forum, to be honest, im more offended by some ASSH*LE with a swazzy in his signature, or some other "clan" tag or whatever that labels him to a fantasy nazi unit or whatnot, than a picture of hitler winning the war and visiting various cities. you took a joke and made it into a political statement. if anyone is the nazi, its the finnish guy with the swastika-bearing plane for a signature. my gramps would break your legs if he saw that, god rest his soul.... man was the best pilot over britian during the battle...


and by the way, i think your V-mod idea is pretty good, you should try to do it, you've got my download... hopefully you can include some things from GWX or make it compatible ( doubt thats possible though) although that'd be like having your cake and eating it, AND eating somebody elses cake after that!:rotfl:

We have exchanged PM's Sniper_fox, all is ok now, just a little missunderstanding, it can be a very touchy subject, I use swastikas in tha game as it is historically correct but ofcourse some, like KKK misuse it!:yep:

mkay, i just saw what was said, and seemed a little unjust...

this old fox over here is a wee bit quick to hit the fire torpedo lever!:arrgh!:


ive also noticed that the stock SH3 caps bear a striking reseblance to the SS... ive never seen a blue naval cap worn by a sub-officer... only the white one.. or well one that isnt so rigid...

strange. maybe the creators were in the SS and are still tryi ng to pass on their doctrine through SH3?! :o lol

:rotfl:
Yes it's easy to offend, I was just trying to warn that the contents may offend some, I just didn't do a good job of explaing it!:damn:
Still that was in the past & would like to put that to rest!:yep:

I like idea about new SH3 campaign in alternative history:up:. Personally I would like set/put this campaign in time where Nazi never rises to power, Germany stays Imperial State with Emperor Wilhelm II/III on throne but WW2 start because Germany went revenge for WWI and they Army start attack on France and England and traitorous Italy…and maybe attack USSR WHEN ENGLAND WILL BEEN CONQUERD!

thats actually a pretty good one... you could take the ottoman empire over :D

This is my list with favorite people for heads of German government where Germany is Kaiserreich in SH3 alternative history campaign (where Nazi NEVER rises to power):

1.Head of government Emperor Wilhelm II/III
2.Supreme Commander of German Army: General Heinz Wilhelm Guderian
3.Head of Wehrmacht: General Edwin Rommel
4.Head of Kriegsmarine: Grand Admiral Alfred von Tirpitz or maybe can be Karl Dönitz (if he don’t support DAMN Nazi regime)
5.Head of B.d.U.: Otto Kretschmer or Erich Topp
6.Head of Luftwaffe: I really don’t know who can be right person for this position, maybe can be Manfred von Richthofen/Red Baron
7.Head of Armament and Research & Development division: Dr. Wernher von Braun or Dr. Hermann Oberth

For other governmental positions I don’t know right people.
What you think?

Maybe someone will make a mod with Type XVIII walter boats that operate in the Indian ocean with help from Japanese Naval and Air units. But maybe thats a bit too far fetched is it ???

IIRC the up and coming SH4 expansion just about covers that!:yep:

manfred von richtofen died from his wound to his chest after he was shot down by an ANZAC soldier with a Lee Enfield. when he crash landed, british troops were all over him, his last words were "Im sorrry" i believe

on an ironic note he was also quoted to have said "when i kill an englishmen, my thirst is quenched for a meer quarter of an hour

Wolf359: Many people in your list were nobodies if it hadnt been for the Nazis. Göring was maybe an exception. It should rather include people like Ludendorff, Hindenburg, who were not Nazis but ultra right wing militaries.

Germany had also civilian politicians until 1933 but their names are hardly known anymore ..

I know that Red Baron been shoted down in his famous Fokker triplane 1918 but don’t know details. Thanks you for telling me these interesting details Sniper Fox:up:. Maybe we can change his fate in background story of SH3 alternative history campaign (if somebody decide to try make it)

Hello out there!

I read the thread til here .... and at some points it was horrible for me as good indoctrined german :-?
Because the last 65 years we were teached that we have the guilty of to catastrophic wars ... but ya can´t take a period without the time before and the hole political and social surounding!
But I like to make a suggesten (like in the "what if books"):
- germany still lost the WW1, because we need a reason for the 2.
- in the flandern fields a british soldier hasn´t mercy with a "gased" bavarian soldier when he jumped into the ditch, and killed the "charismatic" be-leader of the future NSDAP, before this man can take over the power
- Wilhelm II. has the bullocks to stay rather to flee into exile and decided to go back to the constitutional monarchy, like it was before.
- the threaty of varsaille was more affected by the americans, so Wilson shows this time bullocks, and the french just get parts of their will.
- the german "not in field beaten" army is reduced to a 100.000 men, they are still not allowed to build tanks, and u-boats (we still need a reason for the second great war), so some of the conservative militärs are pissed off.

Til here I have some suggestions and now Frau demands me :lol: to came to breakfast so I have some time to think over, and do a little research!
:D

I´ll be back with more!
Promised and Menace!

In diesem Sinne
Gott mit Uns
Frank B. aus K.

start time for alternative history campaign
 

I thinking about best starting time for SH3 Alternative history campaign and background story:hmm:.


Best start and end time for Alternative history campaign could be in period of 1942-1950. (least for me)


Many of higher ranking Kriegsmarine officers suggests 1942 year for start a World War 2 to the DAMN and STUPID Hitler and other they Nazi party dogs, because Kriegsmarine don’t be ready for war in 1939, they have only 39 subs (if I remember correctly:know:) and just few ships from Z Plan - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan_Z.


And in this history maybe Poland join in alliance with Imperial Germany and Japan when Stalin become treat to it. And in this history Germany doesn’t been in alliance with stupid and traitor Italy.