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Sea Demon 12-20-07 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by NEON DEON
First off it takes 2/3s in the Senate which means barely would be 66 to 34. Barely in your mind is quite interesting. You want to see someone almost get knocked out of office then go back to Andrew Johnson. Now that was barely :p

Second the Congress does not and can not put the President on trial they vote for impeachment only. The trial is in the senate.

So---- No the House did not find Clinton Guilty.

No where in Clinton's apology did he say he committed perjury. Maybee you should read it again.


This time use Webster's Dictionary as opposed to SeaDeamons. :p

I find it utterly amazing how some people can schill for Clinton like they do. Clinton admits wrongdoing, and is in some sort of "got caught in the cookie jar" type of posture, and some people continue to try and clean up his rotten image. :nope: :D Utterly amazing. Of course he doesn't come out and spill it for you, but nevertheless, he is a liar and a cheat. It's hilariously fallacious to say he's an honest man. History will tell you you're wrong every time. Ask his wife...oh yeah...she's got integrity problems herself. Never mind. And you're wrong about the House. Their vote will stand for eternity in the Congressional record as a successful impeachment vote. Clinton will go down in History as a disgraced President despite all the rhetoric from Clinton lovers. All his lying, cheating on his wife, getting impeached, trial, Chinagate will always be a part of his historical record. And there is absolutely nothing you can do to clean it up. So continue on...it matters not.

P.S. Just wait until/if his wife is the Democratic nominee. You ain't seen nothing yet. ;)

Sea Demon 12-20-07 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Zachstar
Clinton was not found guilty. END OF STORY Newsflash: He is no longer the president.

Can we move on to the other parts?

Actually he was acquitted of wrongdoing.......barely. But impeached in the House of Representatives. He has admitted wrongdoing when he got caught with his pants down (no pun intended). His wife is running on his record.....curiously, so tell her he's no longer the president.

And you're free to move onto any topic you'd like. :88)

Sea Demon 12-20-07 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by August
i find the Democrats willingness to ignore that fact just because he's one of their own to be hypocritical.

I find it totally lacking in intellectual honesty. :yep:

Sea Demon 12-20-07 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Zachstar
Clinton lied and nobody died disscussion.

Clinton was less than honest about global terrorism and alot of people died. ;) His inaction, and sweeping under the rug policies allowed for 5 major attacks during his tenure. But nice try.

I give him credit for one thing though. At least he admitted Saddam was a potential threat who had WMD's. Or am I not supposed to mention that.

Zachstar 12-20-07 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Sea Demon
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Originally Posted by Zachstar
Clinton was not found guilty. END OF STORY Newsflash: He is no longer the president.

Can we move on to the other parts?

Actually he was acquitted of wrongdoing.......barely. But impeached in the House of Representatives. He has admitted wrongdoing when he got caught with his pants down (no pun intended). His wife is running on his record.....curiously, so tell her he's no longer the president.

And you're free to move onto any topic you'd like. :88)

You see here in dis country we have to have a guilty verdict before dat guy is guilty. It's kind of the way we works. Sorry to wreck your deal on that one.

And no I did not like him either. I have to admit tho that he was a fun president compared to Bush. Maybe Obama will be an interesting president if he wins. Hillery will make me puke I'm sure.

As for his wife running on his record. I think he is doing more to harm her in the polls than anything so you ought to be quite thankful that is the case.

Sea Demon 12-20-07 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Zachstar
You see here in dis country we have to have a guilty verdict before dat guy is guilty. It's kind of the way we works. Sorry to wreck your deal on that one.

You're absolutely correct. Nevertheless, his impeachment in the House forever stands. And his own words after the fact are a part of history. These are things history will never allow to go away.

Zachstar 12-20-07 12:58 AM

And who will care honestly? If that somehow implies he was guilty of anything.

When someone brings up the impeachment in conversation I never hear. He lied he commited a crime!, the house got him!

It's.... The sex aspect of it.

You can't get the cell phone generation to understand and support spaceflight like people used to do. Much less talk about old useless politics.

Hopefully its more of a tire of this triangle of crap.

Bush Clinton Bush Clinton but supposedly Bush Clinton are big buddies now and all that crap.

We need new people. Ron Paul or Obama in my view.

Fish 12-20-07 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Sea Demon
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Originally Posted by Zachstar
Im moderate. Middle not left

Yeah....me too. :roll:

:roll: :-? :nope:

August 12-20-07 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Zachstar
My god yet another round of Clinton lied and nobody died disscussion.

Clinton was not found guilty. END OF STORY Newsflash: He is no longer the president.

Can we move on to the other parts?

He may no longer be the president but he has a chance of getting back into the white house therefore it remains valid.

Zachstar 12-20-07 08:55 AM

What do you think Mr Clinton is going to become the new Dick Cheney in the Clinton Presidency? I think his wife is more shrewd when it comes to politics and the only thing he becomes is towed along.

Him being in the white house means nothing. It's his wife being in again that can cause major issues for this country.

Did you hear about this supposed plan to send her husband and Daddy Bush on a mission to supposedly repair the damage in international relations? Hopefully just a rumor now...

L
O
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:rotfl:

August 12-20-07 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Zachstar
Did you hear about this supposed plan to send her husband and Daddy Bush on a mission to supposedly repair the damage in international relations? Hopefully just a rumor now...

No they did propose such a plan but Bush Sr. basicly told them to sfuff it:

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...ton-trip-idea/

Zachstar 12-20-07 09:46 AM

Ah good to hear that mess is over. The last thing the world needs is to see MORE Bush/Clinton.

Go Obama for the Dems GO Ron Paul for the general!

August 12-20-07 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Zachstar
Ah good to hear that mess is over. The last thing the world needs is to see MORE Bush/Clinton.

Here's a scary thought. If Hillary wins there will have been either a Clinton or a Bush in the White House for a quarter of a century.

Zachstar 12-20-07 10:53 AM

And I was having a good morning till you posted that thought.

*PUKE* :shifty:

And I just read that Clinton got a large jump in support recently.

The horrors of the pre-fusion age. Gah

bradclark1 12-20-07 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by August
Nobody in Congress cared a hoot about him cheating on Hillary. They felt for some reason that Clinton lying, under oath, in a court of law, constituted obstruction of justice and perjury, both impeachable offenses. Ultimately they let him off the hook for political reasons even though it was pretty clear he had done exactly that.

The usual political obfuscations are one thing ,but in my book the President of our country is supposed to be trustworthy and lying under oath, REGARDLESS of the subject, is just not acceptable.

Everything was down party lines. The whole thing was a job plain an simple. Forty billion dollars was spent on that. Thats $40,000,000,000!
But it's worth it to get a Democrat huh. Pure stupidity.
In your book is an illusion. There isn't a politician on that hill who isn't a lying scumbag. But I guess in your book there is lying and there is lying. What would be the difference between the two? They are both spelled the same, they each mean the same, so what exactly is the difference? It's okay here but not there? Should we make it law that every time a politician says something they should raise their right hand and be put under oath? Get real!

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It's pretty clear that the man was/is a sexual predator and i find the Democrats willingness to ignore that fact just because he's one of their own to be hypocritical
The guy is dirt. The "Democrats :roll: " don't deny that. I don't believe the term sexual predator was used but your personal opinion on it doesn't matter. The "Democrats :roll: " think it's pretty darn stupid to bring a country to a virtual stand still and spend $40,000,000,000 over a blow job.
Not hypocrisy just aversion to stupidity.


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