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Reaves 12-11-07 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter
Let's consult iGod!!


Me:
God, if we don't end the War in Iraq and genocide in Darfur, who will?

God:
I am a Christian.


Goddamn AI.


Careful, he might start talking dirty like Santa did!

Stealth Hunter 12-11-07 08:07 PM

Santa touched my neighbor last year...:o

Frau_Phillips 12-11-07 08:09 PM

See, God won't even bother.
It's up to Hannah :rock:

Stealth Hunter 12-11-07 08:17 PM

To The Bat-cave!!

Skybird 12-12-07 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frau_Phillips
Skybird,
Everyone has a cause that hits them in a different way than anything else. I do things for local charities, champion equal rights here, but nothing, NOTHING makes me feel the way seeing statistics on the genocide in Darfur or the numbers of American dead in this war do.
If we don't do it, who will?

I did not mean to criticise you, Fräulein! :) Your previous posting just gave me the impression that you were hushing around and maybe spending more effort to get to the next opportunity than you actually spend in engaging at that event, opportunity, whatever, ending up with spending a lot of time and getting nothing really done, you see. Focus is a virtue.

concerning Dafhur, it honours you that you feel affected somehow, but the situation is much more intentional than you may perceive. are you sure you have the means available to counter such inhumane intentions, and the powerpolitics of religous and political ideologies? ;)

You are young, and most people at your age (me included, for me it were the 80s! ;) ) are full of energy, but lack focus and experience, and are strongly driven by idealism and want to do and want to act and want to chnage the world. that is the youth's right, and maybe even it's duty. If one has not been an anarchist for some time during one's youth, than one probably have never been young at all. But sense of realism cannot hurt to channel the very limited options and material possebilities one has at that age, usually. So I still would advise to focus on those issues that are really within your range, and where you can put your very own hands onto, so to speak, by walking there and start helping by your own presence, and tell them: here I am, how could I help you people?

Sorry if sounding like an old grandfather. It is not meant like that. I am almost 41, that doesn't make me that old at all.

I hope. :lol:

Frau_Phillips 12-12-07 12:03 PM

Just thought I'd give you guys a little update..
The guy I mentioned in the video who's organising the original strike, (who's been on every US news channel and the BBC) is getting in touch with me and might endorse the Atlanta strike.
It's very possible that with this guy, one of the most popular on Youtube, protests could be staged in every major city.

So while one strike in Atlanta might do little to nothing, a strike in several major cities might do little to something :)

Kapitan_Phillips 12-12-07 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frau_Phillips
Just thought I'd give you guys a little update..
The guy I mentioned in the video who's organising the original strike, (who's been on every US news channel and the BBC) is getting in touch with me and might endorse the Atlanta strike.
It's very possible that with this guy, one of the most popular on Youtube, protests could be staged in every major city.

So while one strike in Atlanta might do little to nothing, a strike in several major cities might do little to something :)


It'll probably annoy alot of people, you know.

Chock 12-12-07 01:24 PM

I fail to see what it will achieve toward your goal be honest. Look at it this way: If when hostages are taken in a foreign land and threatened with execution unless the troops withdraw fails to make the government change its position, then how is someone skipping a few burgers going to affect matters? It seems rather tame in comparison.

The 'hunger strike' may well be well intentioned, although I suspect it is more a case of someone living out their own personal John Lennon fantasy than any well thought-out scheme to achieve something. But to announce that your hunger strike will be limited to a 72 hour period is no threat at all, just wait 72 hours and the threat is gone.

There is however one thing that it will definitely achieve; anyone who is a prominent supporter of this action will find likely themselves getting their own personal file opened in Langley, and marked as a potential political agitator. Be aware of that, because it will almost certainly affect your job prospects in the future.

:D Chock

Kapitan_Phillips 12-12-07 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chock
I fail to see what it will achieve toward your goal be honest. Look at it this way: If when hostages are taken in a foreign land and threatened with execution unless the troops withdraw fails to make the government change its position, then how is someone skipping a few burgers going to affect matters? It seems rather tame in comparison.

The 'hunger strike' may well be well intentioned, although I suspect it is more a case of someone living out their own personal John Lennon fantasy than any well thought-out scheme to achieve something. But to announce that your hunger strike will be limited to a 72 hour period is no threat at all, just wait 72 hours and the threat is gone.

There is however one thing that it will definitely achieve; anyone who is a prominent supporter of this action will find likely themselves getting their own personal file opened in Langley, and marked as a potential political agitator. Be aware of that, because it will almost certainly affect your job prospects in the future.

:D Chock


Now you see, if I'd have said that, I'd probably get my ass kicked ;)

Frau_Phillips 12-12-07 04:33 PM

My goal is not to end this war, I am not so vain that I think there's any way I could sway the minds of any high-level politician.

My goal is to add to the national discussion already going on about this war. I want to show that I and much of my generation cares.

It's only 72 hours because we don't want anyone hurt. I don't see this as a threat, but rather, a statement.
Question my intelligence, question my judgement, but please don't question my intentions.

Kapitan_Phillips 12-12-07 04:51 PM

I see that, darling. My primary consideration is for your safety, you should know that by now. Its great that you're doing something and creating something that's going to be talked about, but only do it after you consider the repurcussions. Just think what would happen if someone became ill during those 72 hours. Who is to blame? The protester, or the organiser?

Chock 12-12-07 06:24 PM

I'm certainly not questioning your intentions in wanting to bring attention to the matter at a hand, it's apparent that is the case. But of course when you are young, you have the advantage of being idealistic, wanting to kick ass and change the world, something that unfortunately disappears as you get older and you start thinking more about what makes the world go around and less about how you could change it! You've probably heard the saying: 'if you aren't a socialist when you are young, you've got no soul, but if you're a socialist when you are older, you've got no brain' - now, personally, I don't think that things can be wrapped up so neatly as that saying would have it by any means, but it does point up how attitudes change as responsibilities grow. Despite losing our idealistic streak as we get older, we do get the compensatory advantage of experience - not to mention the dubious experience of witnessing numerous disappointments - and so the things people point out when they are older may of course seem patronising or jaded, and of course to some extent they probably are, but there's a good chance that you will hold those opinions too in years to come. I'm certain that thought is not an attractive prospect to you now, but it's probably going to turn out to be the truth nonetheless.

So you stick to your guns and screw us old farts trying to tell you what to do. I admire you for getting off your ass and doing something about a matter you feel strongly on, regardless of whether I think it will have any effect. Good on you girl.

:D Chock

Stealth Hunter 12-12-07 06:57 PM

^

Well said and extremely true.


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