SUBSIM Radio Room Forums

SUBSIM Radio Room Forums (https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/index.php)
-   General Topics (https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/forumdisplay.php?f=175)
-   -   Possible 40 lashes for......... (https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=125753)

Skybird 11-28-07 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbuna
Quote:

Originally Posted by micky1up
the problem is these counties happily take our AID in cash and food and expect us to be tollerant then act totally intolerant to slight infringes i say threaten them with the withdrawl of AID cash and food close all flight to and from sudan until see is released


Agreed http://www.satellites.co.uk/satellit...as2maosfn8.gif



Yes indeed, agreed. Just not far-leading enough.

You have to forgive them, though. From Islamic perspective it is only fair and just that infidels pay them "taxes". It comes as a natural part of the religion of theirs. It is their natural right to get payed by others.

Jimbuna 11-28-07 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird
Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbuna
Quote:

Originally Posted by micky1up
the problem is these counties happily take our AID in cash and food and expect us to be tollerant then act totally intolerant to slight infringes i say threaten them with the withdrawl of AID cash and food close all flight to and from sudan until see is released


Agreed http://www.satellites.co.uk/satellit...as2maosfn8.gif



Yes indeed, agreed. Just not far-leading enough.

You have to forgive them, though. From Islamic perspective it is only fair and just that infidels pay them "taxes". It comes as a natural part of the religion of theirs. It is their natural right to get payed by others.


Yeah....in Britain it's called Social Security. Paid for out of British workers taxes http://imgcash2.imageshack.us/img134/9742/angry8se2.gif


http://s224.photobucket.com/albums/d...de/th_1170.gif

seafarer 11-28-07 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaves
Religion is a great thing, ....

No, it's not. It really is not, nor ever has been. Especially to anyone who is not a member (follower, believer, whathaveyou) of the religion (any religion).

STEED 11-28-07 02:10 PM

I see in the news the women in question has now been charged. :nope:

Jimbuna 11-28-07 03:11 PM

The Right Hon David Milliband, Foreign Secretary and MP for South Shields has summoned the Sudanese Minister in for questioning :hmm:

I hope we don't have to pay his taxi fare back :x

http://s224.photobucket.com/albums/d...de/th_1170.gif

STEED 11-28-07 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbuna
The Right Hon David Milliband, Foreign Secretary and MP for South Shields has summoned the Sudanese Minister in for questioning :hmm:

I hope we don't have to pay his taxi fare back :x

http://s224.photobucket.com/albums/d...de/th_1170.gif


David Milliband is a pr*ck and wet behind the ears. :x

Chock 11-28-07 05:19 PM

Quote:

David Milliband is a pr*ck and wet behind the ears. :x
Couldn't agree more :up:

:D Chock

Reaves 11-28-07 07:26 PM

If only there was an international group that would stand against all barbaric countries like Sudan. Untill that time things like this will continue. The media has ignored Sudan for a long time. Not so long ago people were crucified there.

SUBMAN1 11-28-07 08:23 PM

Where are the British SAS already? This is pathetic. Make it painful already for both parties if they go through with this.

-S

Kapitan_Phillips 11-28-07 08:41 PM

Just imagine the backlash if us British had such a punishment for a Muslim who called their teddy Elizabeth.

Reaves 11-28-07 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kapitan_Phillips
Just imagine the backlash if us British had such a punishment for a Muslim who called their teddy Elizabeth.


The sadest thing is that this comment is true. I'm a strong believer in equality for everyone but more often nowadays it seems western nations are compromising our way of life to please others. This allows hatreds to grow on both sides of the fence.

Our judgement is being clouded by hatred of fanatics!

Once upon a time this was my idea of a muslim:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/hindi/specials/...woman_usa2.jpg

Now it's this:

http://www.theodoresworld.net/pics/0...orist_camp.jpg


I miss being ignorant.

Stealth Hunter 11-29-07 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaves
I hate fanatics of any religion but Islamic countries really peeve me.

Watch your tongue, Reaves. I'm an Iranian Muslim, and I'm not going to tolerate you mocking our religion (downsized by violence, though it be), and I know the mods won't either.

In case you didn't get it, I'm joking, although I am a Muslim.

Reaves 11-29-07 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter
Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaves
I hate fanatics of any religion but Islamic countries really peeve me.

Watch your tongue, Reaves. I'm an Iranian Muslim, and I'm not going to tolerate you mocking our religion (downsized by violence, though it be), and I know the mods won't either.

In case you didn't get it, I'm joking, although I am a Muslim.

It doesn't bother me at all if your a muslim. :up:

I dislike fanatical Christians or whatevers as much as fanatical muslims. We all have the same God if you ask me but that's a topic for another thread.... another forum even! :hmm:

I hope you understand my comment about Islamic nations though. It's not just things like equal rights for women, some of those nations are pretty messed up. When it comes to it I also don't condone the death penalty in the USA so don't worry, I dislike everyone equally. :D

See my last post, I hope that explains it. If anything I admire you for your faith as if you follow it correctly, religion generally makes you a better person. It's a shame the few loud ones taint the name of everyone.

Stealth Hunter 11-29-07 01:24 AM

Oh, I do understand. I just wanted to crack out one of those sarcastic jokes/statements. It's always fun to ponder the reaction of those to whom it is aimed at, and then their thoughts, then wonder their feelings towards the final, "I'm joking!" part.:rotfl:

I too dislike the fanatics of the world, and I believe very strongly that perhaps they should be taught to respect the rights and beliefs of others without being so stuck-up and arrogant, claiming they have all the answers. Should this seem hypocritical of me to be uttering these words from my mouth (to anyone who may be reading this without full understanding), just note that I do not claim to have all the answers.

jumpy 11-29-07 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BBC
The Muslim Council of Britain reacted angrily to the news, saying it was "appalled" and demanded Mrs Gibbons' immediate release. "This is a disgraceful decision and defies common sense. There was clearly no intention on the part of the teacher to deliberately insult the Islamic faith," said Secretary-General Dr Muhammad Abdul Bari, in a strongly-worded statement.
"We call upon the Sudanese President, Omar al-Bashir, to intervene in this case without delay to ensure that Ms Gibbons is freed from this quite shameful ordeal," said Dr Bari.
Earlier, the Sudanese Embassy in London had said the situation was a "storm in a teacup" and signalled that the teacher could be released soon, attributing the incident to a cultural misunderstanding.
But Sudan's top clerics have called for the full measure of the law to be used against Mrs Gibbons and labelled her actions part of a Western plot against Islam.

And some muslim countries are confused at being labeled as 'backward' by western nations - we might not say it directly to your face, but we certainly think it; that's called diplomacy. :roll:
I am saddened over this whole event and whilst naivety is no excuse for not being aware, I have to say, loudly, WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?!

Personally I hope Gillian Gibbons returns to the UK as soon as possible and never sets foot on Sudanese soil again, they will probably be poorer for it but it appears that's just how they like it. Should that be the case it's a shame her school kids will no longer benefit from her skills and attention. :down:


EDIT:
some interesting and balanced thoughts in the (article and) comments at the bottom of the page here, in particular
Quote:


What we really have here is a non-Muslim teacher in a school run by a non-Muslim board that allows Muslims and non-Muslims to educate and be educated together. While some would applaud this, I am sure that many "Islamists" in Sudan would be appalled at such a thing and have been waiting for an excuse to close the school down. There are bigger issues than soft toys and ignorant children and teachers.
In truth, I suspect this last is closest to the mark with this incident.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:11 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1995- 2025 Subsim®
"Subsim" is a registered trademark, all rights reserved.