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Hi Bigboy, Turkey did not belog to the Axis. Japan did not send them to service, as you wrote, and Romania did not (as far as i know, and i have not seen any picture of an Romanian Fw190 with "Factorymarkings". All Pictures i know show them with overpainted german markings) recive "legaly" Fw 190. They used some who were left on german airfields after they turned sides. http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/2...26largeew1.jpg The Sowjets captured them as you wrote and did not got them from the germans. :yep: |
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For Romanian 190s check out "Rumanian Air Force - The Prime Decade" And while the Japs didnt fly the 190 they used the technology in it to build the Kawasaki Ki-100 :up: |
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With Tuekey you are right but i thought about combat nations of the axis. |
No tis a book
There are none on the net I know of |
Ok. Installed & checked. Here is FW190A5 - CREATOR : Psy06
http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/2632/75254078oc5.png http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/3636/10937006dp3.png http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/4840/11558421hp7.png Beauty plane. Thank you Bigboywooly. |
Fw190A5 looks fantastic :up:
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1. I think the point as to how Romania came across the Fw 190's is moot. At the least, they pressed into service 22 captured ex-Luftwaffe planes. They hastily repainted them, some with pro-Axis markings, some with pro-Allied, and used them as trainers (as "mock enemy"). This is supported online at this link as well as in the book BBW refers to (and other hard copy sources I have). All 22 were surrendered to the Russians in late-1944.
I have also come across evidence in my travels of Germany "loaning" Fw 190A's to Romania. But I think this is misleading. When I can be bothered I'll dig it out, but if my memory serves me correctly, these were attached to Luftflotte 4 where they undertook a defensive interceptory role around Konstanza, and maintained German markings. Whether this is true, I have yet to find 100% evidence, but I have found separate pieces of unrelated evidence to suggest this is what occurred. Certainly plausible considering there are only two or three known photos of Fw 190's carrying Romanian markings and they are of the captured plane variety. Either way, in a black-and-white sense, Romania had at least 22 Fw 190s between August and October 1944. Should they be added to Romania's roster? Yep, how a country got the planes should be irrelevant. Otherwise some of the planes attached to some of the current countries (like the neutrals) should be removed too. ;) Although this could be counter argued by the fact that for the 22 planes that we have arguable proof for, none ever fired a shot in anger. Should they be scripted? Nup, not at all. Never used in anger. Of course, adding Fw 190's to German bases in the Black Sea region would not be a problem. 2. Italy using Fw 190s? Nup. Not at all. I mean, a Norwegian pilot did once claim to have shot down an Italian Fw 190, but that has always been disputed. In any event, they were used in North Africa predominantly by the Luftwaffe's II./J.G.2. |
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If I'm not sure of a particular plane having served with one country, I go over to WINGS PALETTE http://wp.scn.ru/en and take a look at the planes profiles to see if the country is listed. Of course not a 100% proof. |
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There was an online site that I liked to use for a "quick indication" of plane usage by different countries (it was always fairly accurate too when compared to other sources), but it no longer seems to be around. :( Fortunately my written reference library is merely an arm's length away...well, atm technically *two* arm's lengths away, LOL! |
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http://www.airwar.ru/transfer/grisha.../pics/12_1.jpg Until now i have not heared or seen anything about "legaly" Romanian Fw 190. If anyone has pictures please share it with me. But I think that there will be no proof!:roll: Kind regards. |
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