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The Avon Lady 08-28-07 02:11 AM
Yep. Banning half measures will solve a lot of problems, narcotics and more.

swifty 08-28-07 10:12 AM
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I think this is a great way to get ships for target practice! The US should adopt their policies on this issue! We even get submarines around here that we can practice torpedoing! :up:

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In a way they all ready do. When an US submarine receives a new MK-46 it doesn't have a war head. The torpedo must be test fired 2 to 3 times before it is made deadly. This ensures that all guidance and stacking are working property, don't want the thing turning back on you. At $52 million I don't see the need to be blowing them up.

VonHammer 08-28-07 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by swifty
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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
I think this is a great way to get ships for target practice! The US should adopt their policies on this issue! We even get submarines around here that we can practice torpedoing! :up:

-S
In a way they all ready do. When an US submarine receives a new MK-46 it doesn't have a war head. The torpedo must be test fired 2 to 3 times before it is made deadly. This ensures that all guidance and stacking are working property, don't want the thing turning back on you. At $52 million I don't see the need to be blowing them up.
i guess that makes sense. thats just hard to belive that a torpedo can cost $52 million. well and it would be a waste of our tax dolloars

bradclark1 08-28-07 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by swifty
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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
I think this is a great way to get ships for target practice! The US should adopt their policies on this issue! We even get submarines around here that we can practice torpedoing! :up:

-S
In a way they all ready do. When an US submarine receives a new MK-46 it doesn't have a war head. The torpedo must be test fired 2 to 3 times before it is made deadly. This ensures that all guidance and stacking are working property, don't want the thing turning back on you. At $52 million I don't see the need to be blowing them up.
The torpedo unit production costs from approximately $1.2-$1.4M million apiece. I can't see the warhead costing 40+ times the cost of a tomahawk though, even for a nuke configuration. A mk48 adcap with 650lb HE warhead only cost 2.5 million.

TLAM Strike 08-28-07 01:54 PM
2.5 mil a fish huh? Maybe we should be arming our subs with a half load of old Mk 14s. That way they can still fight Ivan or whoever's SSNs and still have a cost effective time sinking Iranian patrol boats. :hmm:

VonHammer 08-28-07 03:07 PM
or they could outsource the production to china but they mite need to get recalled for to much lead paint

swifty 08-28-07 03:43 PM
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The torpedo unit production costs from approximately $1.2-$1.4M million apiece. I can't see the warhead costing 40+ times the cost of a tomahawk though, even for a nuke configuration. A mk48 adcap with 650lb HE warhead only cost 2.5 million.
Your right I miss read the data sheet in 1999 26 were purchased for 52.8 mill.
http://www.fas.org/man/docs/fy99/navy/osdp1_wpn_u.pdf

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Cost estimates for this weapon (MK48) are around $2 million each, rising to almost $3 million in some cases with upgrades factored in. source

bradclark1 08-28-07 05:36 PM
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Cost estimates for this weapon (MK48) are around $2 million each, rising to almost $3 million in some cases with upgrades factored in. source
Bottom line is I think we need to bring back the deck gun.:-?

bookworm_020 08-28-07 06:42 PM
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Cost estimates for this weapon (MK48) are around $2 million each, rising to almost $3 million in some cases with upgrades factored in. source
Bottom line is I think we need to bring back the deck gun.:-?
But the gun will cost $8 million and each shell $5,000 due to mark ups!:cry: Don't get me started on the increase in cost for insurance and OH&S training!:shifty:

VonHammer 08-28-07 06:44 PM
yea and with todays technology im sure they can even have it conceled some where for when theryre underwater. and it probaly be more acurte to.

Heibges 08-28-07 09:01 PM
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Why not capture it and sell it? They could've made few quick greenbacks.
We did capture it.

But the thing was svery un-seaworthy, it really wasn't wrth selling.

Okay guys I think some of you are getting the wrong idea

The following did not happen:
We found an NK ship, suspected of running drugs and got the RAAF to blast it to pieces with a dumb bomb, with crew onboard and all.

The following however, did happen:
The pong su was tracked down the coast, it attempted to conduct a drugs transfer of the victorian coast, whilst under fed surveillance. guys on the ground were caught. ship attempted to bolt back up north. was pursued by a frigate. was boarded, crew captured. was taken into port. a few years later. after all evidence was bagged tagged, and addmitted into court. and after the ship was assesed as being unseaworthy and useless. It was taken out to sea. stopped dead in the water, and because no RAN assets were available for a live fire ex. the RAAF just blew it up for show.
Ah, it was in bad shape.

My friend bought a 23 ft Baja with twin 350 hp merc-cruisers for $5k at one of those Government Drug options here in the United States.

VonHammer 08-29-07 08:10 AM
thats qutie a steal there. anyone see the Family Guy epsoide when peter, joe, clevland and glenn go to the police actuion and peter buys the boat? btw my grandpa has a 35ft Marlago center console with twin yamaha 250s

Heibges 08-29-07 09:17 AM
Another guy offered my friend $10k for it the very same day.

But unfortunately, my friend kept the boat, did a lot of damage to it, and I don't remember if he made his money back or not.

But we had a great time on Lake Sunapee in New Hampshire for a couple of summers.


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