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Originally Posted by Letum

Area 89 is so secret that it has no material existence what so ever.

America refuses to acknowledge it, despite my many letters.

Ignorance is such a shame. :nope:

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Originally Posted by Camaero

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Originally Posted by Letum

Area 89 is so secret that it has no material existence what so ever.

America refuses to acknowledge it, despite my many letters.

Ignorance is such a shame. :nope:

In the Matrix, the guy at the dinner with Agent Smith said:
Ignorance is bliss...:nope:

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Originally Posted by GakunGak

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Originally Posted by Camaero

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Originally Posted by Letum

Area 89 is so secret that it has no material existence what so ever.

America refuses to acknowledge it, despite my many letters.

Ignorance is such a shame. :nope:

In the Matrix, the guy at the dinner with Agent Smith said:
Ignorance is bliss...:nope:

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

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Originally Posted by robbo180265

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Originally Posted by GakunGak

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Originally Posted by Camaero

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Originally Posted by Letum

Area 89 is so secret that it has no material existence what so ever.

America refuses to acknowledge it, despite my many letters.

Ignorance is such a shame. :nope:

In the Matrix, the guy at the dinner with Agent Smith said:
Ignorance is bliss...:nope:

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

One more time...
http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:...ages/ignor.jpg:lol: :lol:

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Originally Posted by GakunGak

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Originally Posted by Camaero

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Originally Posted by Letum

Area 89 is so secret that it has no material existence what so ever.

America refuses to acknowledge it, despite my many letters.

Ignorance is such a shame. :nope:

In the Matrix, the guy at the dinner with Agent Smith said:
Ignorance is bliss...:nope:

Yes the Wachowski brothers really are philosophers.

Thomas Gray is rolling in his taughty grave. Oh the irony.

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Originally Posted by GakunGak

Chock, you are wicked, you know that?:rotfl:

Says the dude who starts an Area 51 thread.

...ggggzzz...zzzrr ..
Achtung!
Thzis iz thze beginning of thze end
for you and me
Thze black light of thze univerze illuminates thze inner world
open your eyez - thze 68 dimen-zions...
Thzis is thze stain where thze shadow of
thze secret knowledge darken thze reality.
Asczentain thze traces of thze past.
Thzey could show you thze way to thze light.
All iz one! Breathze thze energy!
Feel thze pulse ov thze univerze!
Convoke thze power az a part of thze law!
Fall! Rise! Rise! Fall!
Thiz iz a dream
and thiz is thze end of thze
beginning
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f6ZBxeb8Wk

http://www.smileygarden.de/smilie/Aliens/jawa-001.gif

http://www.jonastal-online.de/images/52_05_01.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF4oV...elated&search=

Yikes, now the nazis?

I would have thought years ago this is most likley where aircraft like the Blackbird and the Stealth got they're starts.....Many of you guys probably don't realize how damn hott and generally unfriendly to hang around in the dessert is....it's flipping hott around these parts pretty much all the time and barren and lonely.

http://www.cyberallies.com/support/n...icon_sunny.gif http://www.cyberallies.com/support/n.../angryfire.gif http://www.cyberallies.com/support/n...s/violent5.gif

To stay out they're in hopes of seeing something would really be tough....I have spoken with hobos/homeless people who have been through that area and claim to have seen the stealth in those early years which would not surprise me anyway....the dessert has brought out some nasty things.....New-Mexico for the bomb...Mesa AZ for the Apache....and Nevada for....? who knows.....You would think stuff like that would have moved to huge underground test facilites by now....God knows my Government has spent enough of my money I would hope they have some private test sites still that are'nt tourist attractions...If the military was smart they would abandon it and turn it into the most awesome wax musem/fun house/amusement park around...called Out Of This World.... lol :) and re-coup some cash.

P.S. sorry Neal..I wonder what secrets come from Texas....hmmm - WEST SIDE!

Currently not caring for secret areas and UFOs anymore. Years back I have read quite some material on such things, but no matter if pro or contra - whatever somebody claimed somewhere at some time, sombebody else claimed the the opposite in another place, and at some different time. I then decided to let it rest, refusing to form an opinion on wether UFOs and Aliens exist in man's sphere, or not. Consider the issue to be on stand-by mode for me, waiting for new information input -and I mean NEW.

On a different level, secret research areas are one thing, but far more interesting are the parallels between older local mythologies, and modern "observations" of Aliens, and the situational conditions under which these where described to have taken place. I take note of it - but still refuse to make any conclusions: neither concluding from observations on mythology, nor from mythology on observations.

Some years ago I read of a report called "the Dulce Wars", in Dulce New Mexico 1979 where there was reported (allegedly) a "battle" between the Grays and Delta Force. The Delta Force lost 79 of their men.

Apparently there are many levels in Dulce where there is a level 7 which is called Nightmare Hall. Strange creatures and multi legged anomalies.

I don't know what to make of all this but there have been many eye witnesses who say there are strange goings on in the town even today.

(I think it was less than 79 men, more like 31).

I recommend to pay more attention to this man:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Vallee

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In the mid-1960s, like many other UFO researchers, Vallée initially attempted to validate the popular Extraterrestrial Hypothesis (or ETH). However, by 1969, his conclusions had changed, and he publicly stated that this hypothesis was untenable.
Dr. Vallée began exploring the commonalities between UFOs, cults, religious movements, angels, ghosts, cryptid sightings, and psychic phenomena. These links were first detailed in Vallee's third UFO book, Passport to Magonia: From Folklore to Flying Saucers.
As an alternative to the extraterrestrial visitation hypothesis, Vallée has suggested a multidimensional visitation hypothesis. This hypothesis represents an extension of the ETH where the alleged extraterrestrials could be potentially from anywhere. The entities could be multidimensional beyond space-time, and thus could coexist with humans, yet remain undetected.
Vallée's opposition to the popular ETH hypothesis was not well received by mainstream U.S. ufologists, hence he was viewed as something of an outcast. Indeed, Vallée refers to himself as a "heretic among heretics".
Vallée's opposition to the ETH theory is summarised in his paper, "Five Arguments Against the Extraterrestrial Origin of Unidentified Flying Objects," Journal of Scientific Exploration, 1990:
"Scientific opinion has generally followed public opinion in the belief that unidentified flying objects either do not exist (the "natural phenomena hypothesis") or, if they do, must represent evidence of a visitation by some advanced race of space travellers (the extraterrestrial hypothesis or "ETH"). It is the view of the author that research on UFOs need not be restricted to these two alternatives. On the contrary, the accumulated data base exhibits several patterns tending to indicate that UFOs are real, represent a previously unrecognized phenomenon, and that the facts do not support the common concept of "space visitors." Five specific arguments articulated here contradict the ETH:

unexplained close encounters are far more numerous than required for any physical survey of the earth;
the humanoid body structure of the alleged "aliens" is not likely to have originated on another planet and is not biologically adapted to space travel;
the reported behavior in thousands of abduction reports contradicts the hypothesis of genetic or scientific experimentation on humans by an advanced race;
the extension of the phenomenon throughout recorded human history demonstrates that UFOs are not a contemporary phenomenon; and
the apparent ability of UFOs to manipulate space and time suggests radically different and richer alternatives."

(...)

Vallée proposes that there is a genuine UFO phenomenon, which is partly associated with a form of non-human consciousness that manipulates space and time. The phenomenon has been active throughout human history, and seems to masquerade in various forms to different cultures. In his opinion, the intelligence behind the phenomenon attempts social manipulation by using deception on the humans with whom they interact.
Vallée also proposes that a secondary aspect of the UFO phenomenon involves human manipulation by humans. Witnesses of UFO phenomena undergo a manipulative and staged spectacle, meant to alter their belief system, and eventually, influence human society by suggesting alien intervention from outer space. The ultimate motivation for this deception is probably a projected major change of human society, the breaking down of old belief systems and the implementation of new ones. Vallée cannot say who or what is behind this scheme, only that the evidence, if carefully analysed, suggests an underlying plan for the deception of mankind by means of psychotronic technology. It is highly unlikely that governments actually conceal alien evidence, as the popular myth suggests. Rather, it is much more likely that that is exactly what the manipulators want us to believe. Vallée feels the entire subject of UFO's is mystified by charlatans and science fiction. He advocates a stronger and more serious involvement of science in the UFO research and debate. Only this can reveal the true nature of the UFO phenomenon.

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Vallée is often highly critical of UFO investigators overall, both believers and sceptics, asserting that what often passes for an acceptable level of investigation in a UFO context would be considered sloppy and seriously inadequate investigation in other fields. He has written pointing out logical flaws and methodological flaws common in such research. Unlike many critics of UFO investigative efforts, his critiques are not condescending and dismissive and he indicates that he is simply interested in good science.

(markings in bold by me)

I can associate myself more with this man than with other authors. Recommended readings "Dimensions", "Confrontations", "Revelations".

The figure of Valée is featured in Spielberg "Close Encounter", where his character was played by Francois Truffaut"

I thought the subject had been resolved back in 1979!!!

http://media.putfile.com/SNL-19790224-Weekend-Update

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Originally Posted by StdDev

I thought the subject had been resolved back in 1979!!!

http://media.putfile.com/SNL-19790224-Weekend-Update

The video is awesome!
UFO=>Good Year!:rotfl: