Thats a pretty substantial statement and it isn't particularly specific. I wish you guys would make fewer unsubstantiated remarks like that.

But the police are not allowed to get angry. They're not allowed to lose their tempers. The whole point of their training is to make them into intelligent and moderated police. Soldiers fight well without the proper gear all the time. So must police maintain composure given a less than ideal situation, if any does exist. They're there allegedly to maintain order. It defeats their purpose for them to lose control and its not acceptable for them to do so under any budgetary circumstances.

What are they supposed to do? "Excuse me Mr. Skinhead. Umm... could you put that man down before we talk please... uuhhhh... thank you... now I don't at all respect the way you're going about this and I'd like you to please desist from further anarchist behavior."

Yea. These guys don't respect the police but some idealist that tells them they're ruining it for the rest of us... I'm sure that guy will survive the day.:roll:

Besides, its not their job to do anything about violent protestors. As everyone else keeps pointing out the police are there to quell these bad ass motherfu**ers.

Yeah, say what you will about the tenets of aggressive unreasoned violence, at leadst it's an ethos. With peaceful protesters you just don't know where you stand!

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That's all they have been doing so far. Maybe it's time to make SERIOUS attempts to prevent those bastards from joining the demonstration?

It's their *******ing obligation to keep those idiots OUT. John Doe won't know those mindless jerks, but those who organize the demonstrations DO(!) know the scum. And they do NOTHING beyond that crappy flower-power talk to stop them.

So as long as people believe that nice words will prevent any violence none of the demonstrators should be surprised if he turns out to be collateral damage.

OVER THE LINE! I'm sorry Smokey but you were over the line. Mark it a Zero.

I was not over the line Walter

Smokey, if you mark that an 8 you will be entering a world of pain. MARK IT ZERO!
AM I THE ONLY ONE THAT GIVES A SH1T ABOUT THE RULES!?

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OMG I don't care if I agree with you or disagree with you. I love that movie and dropping a Walter pic makes me love you.:rotfl:


"Smokey this is not 'Nam, this is Bowling, there are rules."
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I'm reminded of that scene quite often on this forum :p

How do you keep people from showing up at a free protest? Its their right to show up. Until they actually break the law nobody can stop them. And its not like the Neo-Nazis are like car pooling with the Peaceniks.

And I don't care how violent it gets, you can't deny a man his fundamental rights in advance of violence. Thats just the slippery slope and besides we don't turn our constitution on and off when things get a litle controversial. This is the basic philosophy of freedom we're talking about. The right to protest is one of the first things that despots take away. Its part of freedom of expression. Until they start to throw things at the cops I don't think we can allow them to be kept away.

Plus if the G8 wants to hold a conference in the backyard of these hooligans then they'd better expect it to happen. Who's upsetting the natural order here? You can't change the fundamental freedoms of a nation for the long weekend because a bunch of pompous foreigners are getting together to stall on more global reforms.

Me too. I think that we need more Lebowskis around here and fewer Walters. We're already overflowing with Donnys thoough.

You should have seen me in the past when I misspelled "sure" as "shure" for years! :)

Official bilance:

- 433 injured policemen, several of them severly,
- 520 injured "demonstrators" (says then organizer of the demo, I do
not know if he differs between demonstrants and thugs),
- 155 arrest (52 of the arrested are already released again)

Police says there were 30.000 demonstrators, the orgnaizers claim it were 80.000, they had planned for 100.000. Around 2.000 of these have been violant anarchists.

Police says they had been attacked with a level of brutality and rage that previously has been unknown in Germany before. not only sticks and stones were used to attack the officers, but whole plates of the footpath had been used to attack them, resulting in serious injuries.

This is one of the rare times I argue in favour of using more physical force. It cannot be that this level of brutality and acceptance to even kill goes by without reaction. In such cases like yesterday, I would accept the use of firearms at closer range and leg-height. It is a clear case of self-defense by thew police - many of their men had been isolated and hunted around like animals before they got beaten up. Totally unacceptable, such aggression must be broken and stopped at all cost. I deduce that directly from the constitution.

I remember a serious incident years ago, during a football championship in France - German thugs threw a Gendarm to the ground and then started to beat his head with clubs, and iron sticks. He suffered non-repairable brain injuries and was close to death. I would not complain if the attackers would have been shot dead at point blank range - if other police men would have been near.

We have an APEC conference here in Sydney in September. Already they have told people to take a day off, but two whole weeks are going to messed up, as some leders will be coming early or leaving late (the Kings Cross Red light district will be busy;)).

They will close two major rail staions in the city, scramble phones when there is a big wig coming through town, Stop traffic on major roads into the city at peak hour:huh:. Why couldn't they hold this in Canberra, no one would notice the delays and we wouldn't have so much disruption.:roll:

I don't disagree with you there. What I disagree with is the idea of targeted assasination of these guys before they go ape****, as was suggested by waste gate. That and barring the demonstrators themselves.

I don't agree with any suspension of the constitution for these events but once the sh1te hits the fan the police must do what they are there to do.

G8 is deception for the global masses anyway and if the Krauts must pay the s**** - it's even better. :D

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