SUBSIM Radio Room Forums - Calling for djihad now officially allowed in Germany

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Originally Posted by waste gate

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Originally Posted by Heibges

The only people it is okay to pick on in America is gays and lesbians.

That's not true.

Hate crimes (also known as bias crimes) are crimes motivated by bias against an identifiable social group, usually groups defined by race, religion, sexual orientation, disability, ethnicity, nationality, age, gender, gender identity, or political affiliation.

My suggestion would be if one was to commit a crime based on the above; say nothing and just do the crime. After all hate has no place in criminal activity.

The key distinction here is that "hateful speech" is itself protected speech... the bias crimes laws only apply to speech that demonstrates motive for a crime against a member of a protected group.

In other words, if I hit a person it's assault... if I hit a person and call him an ethnic slur (apparently it would have to be one particular to his ethinicity although it might be amusing to try to find a case in which an ignorant person called a black person a spanish slur or something or me hitting another white guy and calling him a "cracker", anyway I'm OT now...) it's a hate crime.

It's not a perfect set of laws, and in fact I'm not sure where I stand on the whole idea of "bias crimes" being some how worse a priori.

Cheers,
David