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John Channing 05-21-07 10:13 AM

Me too. I am on my fourth patrol in S37 and having a blast (and if you have read Blair's "Silent Victory" you will realize how realistic this sim is... right down to the radar problems).

And this sort of "Drama Queen" thread is really more suited to other forums. I thought we were above this.

JCC

Sailor Steve 05-21-07 10:17 AM

:damn: :damn: :damn:

I voted "Yes", because I didn't read the question properly!:damn: :rotfl:

I thought it was asking if I would return TO SH4, as in keep playing it!:damn: I don't even own it, because as I've said too many times I can't play anything currently, but I fully intend to buy it no matter what happens patch-wise.

I'm glad this poll doesn't actually influence anything important.:oops: :rotfl: :damn:

SUBMAN1 05-21-07 01:52 PM

Yes, simply because I really don't feel like playing it in its current condition. The Chronometer bug realy bugs me!

-S

tommyk 05-21-07 03:38 PM

No, its just a poor game. I stay SH3 with GWX and keep sh4 as a reminder to never buy unfinsihed games again and most surely never again from ubi...

AVGWarhawk 05-21-07 03:41 PM

I voted no, I like the game and enjoy playing it. New stuff, new scenery, new subs and new bugs. Even with the bugs, it is still good IMHO.

skullman86 05-21-07 04:12 PM

Not like the store will take it back now.Had I not opened it but still knew it's final state then yeah, I'd return it (if it got 1.3 and it fixed everything then I would keep it).Currently some very important features are broken which renders the game near unplayable for some of us.I am not going to go out of my way to make a measuring device when the game should be able to calculate this stuff on it's own.It's not like they left the stuff out....Its there but it doesn't work which means UBI is obligated to fix it.I can tell you this for sure though; if there isn't a 1.3 I won't be buying anything from Ubisoft ever again.

FIREWALL 05-21-07 04:34 PM

Doesn't matter to me. I sold mine to a guy at GameStop for the preorder
price I paid $60.00. Bonus material version. He was happy because for $50.00+tax all he would get is a DVD in a flashy case.


I asked him if he had internet and he said yes. He said he always buys here so if he has a problem he can return it. As is why I do most of my business here.


We both walked away happy. I gave him something free on a piece of paper.... WWW.SUBSIM.COM

JU_88 05-21-07 05:41 PM

No!
No game is 100% perfect or finnished especially not niche market product like a subsim in the PC games market.
The harsh reality is - If you played SHIV for more than 2 weeks then its pretty good value for money compared to most games on the shelf.
The game really isnt that bad.

For the record - anyone here who is foolish enough to try and take a pc game back to the shop and ask for a refund on the basis of -
"they never made another patch"
Dont be surprised if the staff not only refuse, but chase you out the door with howls of laughter. :88)

FIREWALL 05-21-07 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JU_88
No!
No game is 100% perfect or finnished especially not niche market product like a subsim in the PC games market.
The harsh reality is - If you played SHIV for more than 2 weeks then its pretty good value for money compared to most games on the shelf.
The game really isnt that bad.

For the record - anyone here who is foolish enough to try and take a pc game back to the shop and ask for a refund on the basis of -
"they never made another patch"
Dont be surprised if the staff not only refuse, but chase you out the door with howls of laughter. :88)

In your world maybe . But the Gamestop in our small town has already refunded on SH4 and doesn't carry it any more. Manager said it was to much hassle. They know who their repeat customers are and want to keep them. Besides who wants to take on a mad soccer mom who paid $50'00 for her little darling. :rotfl:


edit:Two more Gamestops near us don't carry SH4 . As of this afternoon. ALL THREE ORDER ONLY.

V.C. Sniper 05-21-07 06:20 PM

No, because I am in love with this game.

Oh, and I never return games I bought.

nattydread 05-21-07 06:39 PM

I wouldnt return it, but i'd be very cautious of anymore UBIsoft titles.

They took their time but they eventually got SHIII in good working order, then I get GRAW and they drop the ball fixing some of teh multiplayer connection issues. GRAW left me feeling abandoned since I couldnt play more than 2 maps without getting dropped and requiring 10 min sto get back into game. Then they force a poor release of SHIV for which they are fighting to leave in its broken state. Now GRAW2 is coming out and Im really debating weither or not to even give it a try.

Ubisoft is beginning to become a disappointment for me...Im really beginning to feel negelected as a PC gamer (and console games arent doing it for me). Im beginning to lean more and more toward just small independent developers (usually with subscriptions) who have much better quality control.

Kaleu. Jochen Mohr 05-21-07 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nattydread
I wouldnt return it, but i'd be very cautious of anymore UBIsoft titles.

They took their time but they eventually got SHIII in good working order, then I get GRAW and they drop the ball fixing some of teh multiplayer connection issues. GRAW left me feeling abandoned since I couldnt play more than 2 maps without getting dropped and requiring 10 min sto get back into game. Then they force a poor release of SHIV for which they are fighting to leave in its broken state. Now GRAW2 is coming out and Im really debating weither or not to even give it a try.

Ubisoft is beginning to become a disappointment for me...Im really beginning to feel negelected as a PC gamer (and console games arent doing it for me). Im beginning to lean more and more toward just small independent developers (usually with subscriptions) who have much better quality control.

i totaly agree with you.

most games ubisoft makes these times are not even finished...

hawk2495 05-21-07 10:33 PM

god im a total de de de.... i selected yes instead of no, but the truth is i wouldnt sell this game even if i could. besides SH1-3 its the only decent WW2 subsim out there. (i might have missed a few.) i dont give up on games that easily... especially ones this damn cool...


now i do admit and agree i will be cautious with UBI titles from here on out, but that wont stop me from at least trying another SH game if they offer it..

Shipwreck 05-21-07 11:11 PM

No sir, injoying the parts that I can play. :rock:

SW

Lt. Cobra 05-21-07 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TDK1044
No. Patched to 1.2 and modded, the game is playable and enjoyable in my view. The argument with Ubisoft is an ethical one.

I will not take SHIV back to the store but I will probably never buy another Ubi Soft product unless they patch this game to a state of being what that it was advertised to do. I’m tired of the fraudulent claims to consumers of big companies like Ubi Soft! I say this as a once long time IL2 player from some time back. This is the first in the series of the Silent Hunter games that I’ve purchased and I’m disappointed to say the least with how they seemingly don’t care about their customers. :nope: This could be such a wonderful simulation for years to come for true lovers of this type of game play if they weren't so greedy! They give the IL2 players support! I also hear so many good things on the forum about how good SHIII is. I would like to have it but I don’t want Ubi Soft profiting from my purchase. Could anyone give me any advice on the best place that I could buy a good copy of SHIII and Ubi not profit from my purchase? I do like the sub-sim games and I would like to continue playing them but I don't want Ubi profiting from my decision and I'm just not ready to put that much more time into SHIV until they fix it. Btw, thanks to all of you modders for making it as good as it is! You have my total respect!
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