It would have been easily possible to assume another ID and just "no comment" to the press asking if he'd deployed or not. The powers that be though probably didnt want to send him. Soldiers are getting killed there anyway so even anonymous there's a chance it could happen. And everyone knows royal blood is valued FAR more highly than normal red blood of real people so they couldnt allow it.

I don't blame Harry or the military. The media whipping it into such a frenzy, and the insurgency claiming to create a special "anti-Harry" task force or whatever... his posting to Iraq would have unnecessarily endangered the lives of everyone around him.

However he will ALWAYS put a unit at a higher risk by just being there. The Army cannot, does not and should not be forced to carry a liability which is exactly what Hewitt is to them.
Just like other liabilities are, he should be dismissed from the service before any more money is wasted. They don't keep one eyed, one legged lunatics in the unit for safety sake as it increases their risk in combat. Why then should they accept a ginger over-privileged inbred who does the same?

One thing though, if he HAD deployed i bet the unit would actually have been given the best and proper equipment and protective devices that although in theory everyone should have in reality hardly anyone there has been supplied with. Cant see his lot with him having to buy boots, vests and other materials off the americans.

[quote=gnirtS]I don't like Wales leeching billions a year of English money but it happens.

Only in your vivid imagination. Lets see the figures.

(You'll also find that (i) its BRITAIN not England contributing to the pot and (ii) Large parts of England cost far more from the treasury).

and earn far more money too!

"headline Gross Value Added in Wales was £39,243m, making the Welsh economy the tenth largest of the UK's twelve 'regions' (counting Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland alongside the nine English Government Office Regions)"

"Economic output per head has been lower in Wales than in other parts of the UK (and most other parts of Western Europe) for a very long time "

DESPITE THIS

"the gap in real living standards between Wales and more prosperous parts of the UK is not pronounced.[1]"

I WONDER WHY?

I rest my case and as we're boycotting someone elses thread, im not prepared to discuss this further. It would be better to insult our Royal Family to your friends and family who care. Many of us are staunch Royalists and don't want to hear it.

Dan

...and not a single article there mentions hand outs or costing more than England or even comparisons so not a single article is relevent to your argument. The fact still remains is (i) England != Britain and (ii) Wales doesn't cost more than anywhere else.


As for staunch royalists then maybe they should all agree to pay for it so the majority of us in the country who DONT want to support money leeching worthless inbreds that serve no useful purpose what so ever can spend our money on something a lot more beneficial.
An opt in royal family. They get what money the people that vote for them want to donate. Seems fair.

Seems stupid.

And just what do you replace the Royal Family with? A President? Does the President have real power, like in the USA or France, or is the President a figure head, like in Ireland?

A President with power would mean a change from Parliamentary government, a President without power would be the same as what we have now. Either way it would cost millions upon millions of pounds and condemn us to Presidential elections every few years. What we have works and is cost effective, like all anti-royals you have forgotten the income to the State from the Duchy of Cornwall and other Royal estates.

If you have any serious or even sensible suggestions about Constitutional change let's have them, but childish name calling is just pathetic.

You misunderstand: I'm not referring to discussion of 'money well spent' but of the media frenzy (as already mentioned by fatty) and it's insane interest in the most mundane minutiae contributing to a publicity that from a purely operational standpoint the MOD and harry's unit could do without; hence his commanders deciding that because of the widespread and detailed reporting of his posting to Iraq he therefore cannot go as now he is an overtly greater risk to himself and more importantly to those around him.

If you want to moan about cash, why not question the whole footing of the war in Iraq and the cost to the 'British taxpayer' as I'm sure it must run far into the billions by now...(or at least thousands of millions of pounds according to some sources) loads more than those sponging royals eh? Still, we all voted for Blair, didn't we.... so that's ok :roll:
Better yet, why not start another topic about why the royal family costs you so much money (according to the beeb in 2005 they cost the taxpayer £27.5m) instead of derailing this one?

What has his being Welsh got to do with anything? I am Welsh myself and by default your remark is giving me a slap in the face too. I am not inbred. I wonder would you be as quick, or as brave, to come out with a remakr like that about somebody who is black, or from Pakistan for example. Probably not, like most quick to malign the Welsh and Irish, you probably don't have the guts.

As for the comments about the Royal family, they were crude, but accurate in a sense, the Royal family for a very very long time did used to 'keep it in the family'

Wales gets just 1 billion per annum out of Westminster that's it. Then it goes to Cardiff to decide how its spent. How many billions a year does Westminster get?

In terms of keeping Wales, we are not expensive in the least.

I think you are racist against the Welsh.

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and having lived in Wales for 3 years, im fully aware of how racist the welsh are. Its the most racist country i've ever been to.

Can we change the record now please and get back to the subject of this thread before we all get so infused with national pride and bile that we have to go and be sick?

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