Guys like you are the reason wy Ubi did not give us life boots!!!!!
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Greetings from Germany

in real life they did to......
orders were NO PRISONERS... (means let them die or kill them)

that doesn't mean shoot them on sight (many KL's did help were they could - you might want to read up on it before making uneducated claims like that :x) - it meant to ignore them and leave them to their fate!

You are a disgrace for the Uniform - maybe the double Sigrune outfit would be more appropriate for you?

Please read the full article.
http://www.uboat.net/articles/index.html?article=55

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i have a book of U-124 where Georg-Wilhelm Schulz torpedoed and sank a merchant and then towed the survivors in theyr life boats to the coast of england.

they gave them food water and medication (if needed).

all those survivors made it back to england alive and after the war some of them went to Schulz to thank him.

Mohr tryed the same (with 4 lifeboats) but they got attacked by a airplane and had to cut the rope.
1 or 2 lifeboats were found by destroyers and they picked up the survivors.

the rest died.

If lifeboats are to ever be included in GWX... they will be made impervious to gunfire.

Ende.

Honestly, I think the extremely high negative renown would be a more "realistic" take on it. If hospital ships are -10,000, call lifeboats -3,000 or something. Enough to completely invalidate even the best patrol, and on an otherwise crappy patrol, gets you drummed out of the service.

Trouble is most ppl know how to alter that

i have read many accounts of U-boat captains haulting their attacks on ships while life rafts were being lowered and then stopping the life rafts and asking "Is everyone off of the ship?" in near perfect english. when the u-boat commander was sure that the ship he was targeting was in fact empty he would resume the shelling of the empty ship.

"Take no prisoners" does not mean "kill them all" it simply means do not get wrapped up in trying to save everyones life because when you try to save everyone you place your U-boat, your crew and the survivors in greater peril if you try to rescue those which you have just sank.

(Laconia Incident anyone? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laconia_incident)

Many skippers of the U-boats would follow the no prisoners order to the T... but they would often still be humaine and provide the survivors with drinking water, and a small bit of food.

Read Torpedo Junction by Homer H. Hickman, Jr. ; within its pages are many accounts of several different U-boat commanders providing survivors with bottles of fresh drinking water, medical supplies, even a flask of whiskey and often pointing them in the direction of the nearest land. Some survivors were even brought on board the U-boat and interrogated not only about the contents and destination of their ships... but also the condition of their crews.

I think that many U-boat commanders felt that sneaking up on an un-armed merchant ship and blowing it to hell and back was a pretty nasty thing to do... yet if you plan to starve your enemy out of its war goods its something that has to be done. I cannot understand why some u-boat commanders would blow life boats out of the water, a grown man might as well walk down the street and shoot small children in their knee caps for no reason whatsoever.

Some people will use the "Well they machine gunned the survivors in the movie U-571"... well i have two counter points to that, firstly, though U-571 was a good movie and a good story it has very little basis on historical fact... some American writers and producers bent the light of history a bit to make a box office hit. Secondly, the U-boat commander gave the order to shoot the survivors not because he wanted to, i doubt that kaleun was a blood thirsty monster.... He gave the order to shoot those men because he knew that he was potentially saving his own boat and crew from discovery, capture and even death. Funny thing is that when a selfless man is a part of something larger than himself and is fighting for a cause he believes in, and he is fighting along the side of men he considers brothers he will do some fascinating things not just for the cause, but for his brothers as well.

Had my U-boat been dead in the water and seriously damaged, shooting the survivors MAY have been an option i would have to mentally wrestle with. Then i would have to live the rest of my life mentally wrestling with knowlege that i traded those young mens lives who may have been anywhere from 14 to 20 years old, with mothers and family in order to save my crew from discovery and death or capture.
what happens if those survivors were to get picked up in several hours? you know exactly what they would say "There is an German U-boat 10 miles south of here sitting dead on the surface!"

In the situations that SH3 thrusts upon us all as make believe U-boat commanders we are forced to think of how it must have been back when.

Quite simply, when you remove the flags from the U-boats, battleships, destroyers and merchant ships, all you have is a bunch of sailors and their boats trying every day to survive an ugly situation. When you send a merchant ship to the bottom... that captain and "his boys" are just like you and "your boys" but today was their unlucky day, a day where they find themselves in an unforgiving environment, well out of their element trying so much harder to hang on to life's final hours. The only difference between them and you... today is their unlucky daytomorrow could be your unlucky day.

so far as im concerned, life boats are 100% off limits.

if i was a real U-boat commander and my boat would be out of action (until repairs are done) i wouldnt kill them... i would get them on my boat and talk to them...

changing story's from expirience and stuff...

then if my boat was fully opperational i would paint a white square with a red cross on my deck and make a red cross flag,set course to england and stop the nearest ship to take the survivors with them... in return i ask to wait 1 hour to radio the brits and tell them the story...

in the hour i would be able to escape (i hope)


but in the game its impossible to do

the allies do not play well with U-boats with red cross emblems

PLEASE RESEARCH THE LACONIA INCIDENT, you and your survivors would have been all killed - period.

i see your point :huh:...
mayby a brittish flag would do... :hmm:

or a white flag hahahaha

just to get close enuf and then sink the basterds :up:

i was thinking... what happens if i take the folder of those lifeboats out of the SH4 game and put them on SH3 :hmm:

would it work ?