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Originally Posted by fredbass

though I'm sure you would disagree. :roll:

Yes we do! :cool:

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Really Imp? We jail political protestors at every rally and send them to guantan? Interesting that I didn't hear anything about it until you mentioned it. Could you be so kind as to provide us with evidence of this?

Mumia abu Jamal
One of them..but there are many in the past and in the present,
in guantam and in others jails

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Originally Posted by Skybird

You just have given up the traditional basis of legal system in a democratic environment. You are accepting to run justice by hear-say and imagination - instead of evidence, checks and balances.

Don't assume what I am assuming. :yep: :lol:

Doesn't sound like a political prisoner to me.

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Doesn't sound like a political prisoner to me.

Yes sure, he is.
And
Debbie Sims Africa
Charles Sims Africa
Delbert Orr Africa
Edward Good man Africa
Janet Holloway Africa
Janine Phillips Africa
Michael Davis Africa
William Phillips Africa

And many others, but MOVE and Mumya was linked

And

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Pistol shots ring out in the barroom night
Enter patty valentine from the upper hall.
She sees the bartender in a pool of blood,
Cries out, my god, they killed them all!
Here comes the story of the hurricane,
The man the authorities came to blame
For somethin that he never done.
Put in a prison cell, but one time he could-a been
The champion of the world.

Three bodies lyin there does patty see
And another man named bello, movin around mysteriously.
I didnt do it, he says, and he throws up his hands
I was only robbin the register, I hope you understand.
I saw them leavin, he says, and he stops
One of us had better call up the cops.
And so patty calls the cops
And they arrive on the scene with their red lights flashin
In the hot new jersey night.

Meanwhile, far away in another part of town
Rubin carter and a couple of friends are drivin around.
Number one contender for the middleweight crown
Had no idea what kinda **** was about to go down
When a cop pulled him over to the side of the road
Just like the time before and the time before that.
In paterson thats just the way things go.
If youre black you might as well not show up on the street
less you wanna draw the heat.

Alfred bello had a partner and he had a rap for the cops.
Him and arthur dexter bradley were just out prowlin around
He said, I saw two men runnin out, they looked like middleweights
They jumped into a white car with out-of-state plates.
And miss patty valentine just nodded her head.
Cop said, wait a minute, boys, this ones not dead
So they took him to the infirmary
And though this man could hardly see
They told him that he could identify the guilty men.

Four in the mornin and they haul rubin in,
Take him to the hospital and they bring him upstairs.
The wounded man looks up through his one dyin eye
Says, whad you bring him in here for? he aint the guy!
Yes, heres the story of the hurricane,
The man the authorities came to blame
For somethin that he never done.
Put in a prison cell, but one time he could-a been
The champion of the world.

Four months later, the ghettos are in flame,
Rubins in south america, fightin for his name
While arthur dexter bradleys still in the robbery game
And the cops are puttin the screws to him, lookin for somebody to blame.
Remember that murder that happened in a bar?
Remember you said you saw the getaway car?
You think youd like to play ball with the law?
Think it might-a been that fighter that you saw runnin that night?
Dont forget that you are white.

Arthur dexter bradley said, Im really not sure.
Cops said, a poor boy like you could use a break
We got you for the motel job and were talkin to your friend bello
Now you dont wanta have to go back to jail, be a nice fellow.
Youll be doin society a favor.
That sonofabitch is brave and gettin braver.
We want to put his ass in stir
We want to pin this triple murder on him
He aint no gentleman jim.

Rubin could take a man out with just one punch
But he never did like to talk about it all that much.
Its my work, hed say, and I do it for pay
And when its over Id just as soon go on my way
Up to some paradise
Where the trout streams flow and the air is nice
And ride a horse along a trail.
But then they took him to the jailhouse
Where they try to turn a man into a mouse.

All of rubins cards were marked in advance
The trial was a pig-circus, he never had a chance.
The judge made rubins witnesses drunkards from the slums
To the white folks who watched he was a revolutionary bum
And to the black folks he was just a crazy ******.
No one doubted that he pulled the trigger.
And though they could not produce the gun,
The d.a. said he was the one who did the deed
And the all-white jury agreed.

Rubin carter was falsely tried.
The crime was murder one, guess who testified?
Bello and bradley and they both baldly lied
And the newspapers, they all went along for the ride.
How can the life of such a man
Be in the palm of some fools hand?
To see him obviously framed
Couldnt help but make me feel ashamed to live in a land
Where justice is a game.

Now all the criminals in their coats and their ties
Are free to drink martinis and watch the sun rise
While rubin sits like buddha in a ten-foot cell
An innocent man in a living hell.
Thats the story of the hurricane,
But it wont be over till they clear his name
And give him back the time hes done.
Put in a prison cell, but one time he could-a been
The champion of the world.

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Ah...I see where you're getting your source from:

No dear.
They are all my friends
I know they, and Ramona Africa
And i have read all the books of Mumia Abu Jamal
and Move ones

We are wandering. This thread is about Iran. Free Mumia in your own topic.

Thank you,
The Management

:help: :gulp: :lost:S.O.B. Save Our Brits or Butts.... :) jk

Someone made a good point on how "Retarded" a move this was seeing how Iran is not at war with anyone and to make a move such as this was very provactive....end of line.

Don't try to tell me Skybird they thought 12 men in rubber boats was an invasion fleet and how they have a right to defend they're waters...lol.

This
http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USN/...eutians-14.gif
or this
http://www.archives.gov/education/le...l-team-one.gif

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Originally Posted by Iceman

Someone made a good point on how "Retarded" a move this was seeing how Iran is not at war with anyone and to make a move such as this was very provactive....end of line.

Don't try to tell me Skybird they thought 12 men in rubber boats was an invasion fleet and how they have a right to defend they're waters...lol.

They probably didn't, but assuming for the moment the Iranians did actually believe the boat was in Iranian waters, are you saying they should allow this violation to go unanswered? Should they wait till the Americans begin intruding with an Aegis cruiser before reacting?

One look at the guys faces who were awarded the medals by president alphabet says to me "what am i doing here? i think im about to be executed for following orders.."

I suggest the answer is similar to what a bloke said on the news here.. that Iran released the prisoners because england opened up back door diplomacy with them, which amounts to a degree of respect. remember, historically persians have always placed a great deal of store by respect, proper manners and so on when dealing with other nations.

course, i'll just reiterate that the only respect id show em is dropping 2 nukes rather than 1..

OK Hypothetically lets agree that the Brits were mistakenly in Iranian claimed waters. Now was it still appropriate for the Iranians to take them at gunpoint? Maybe they could have just escorted them out of what they thought were Iranian waters? I mean they were not stealing any Iranian Assets at the time now where they?
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Originally Posted by Kazuaki Shimazaki II

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Originally Posted by Iceman

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Originally Posted by Kazuaki Shimazaki II

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Originally Posted by Iceman

Thats where voice comes in "Hey, get the hell out of my yard!"

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Originally Posted by Kazuaki Shimazaki II

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Originally Posted by Iceman

You are trying to draw similarites between rubber boats and an Ageis Cruiser huh?
Your arguement has no weight and no matter what you say it was a dumb move on they're part but hey...it's par for the course as far as I see it....can't wait for the next episode of "Iran Roulette".