If I may quote from one of my former works:

"Paul Watzlawick, a communication theorist and psychoanalyst who represents the school of so-called radical constructivism , describes a person who has broken through to a higher level of understanding of reality, explaining that such a person has achieved that by thoroughly understanding and seeing through the process by which he creates his perceived realities by himself, and frees himself of that process - which is the central conclusion of radical constructivism: reality gets not perceived, but created by the observing mind.

Watzlawick attributes three qualities to such a man: First, such a person would be free in a very fundamental understanding, because it is completely up to him what kind of constructions for his reality he wants to choose. Second, such a person would feel himself truly responsible, because to someone who knows that he is the constructor of his realities, the cheap excuse of holding other people, circumstances or practical constraints guilty of the situation he or others are in, no longer would be available. And third, such a person necessarily would be deeply tolerant, because he necessarily needs to grant the freedom of choosing constructions at will to other people as well."

from: "What it's about", page 20.

That does not compute.

http://img483.imageshack.us/img483/9...nspace2wt9.jpg

And that is the problem. When you place a person above God you have made him and by extrapulation yourself the diety. How does it feel to be god skybird?

While diggin into the weird and wonderful i stumble along a Le vay site on satanism Le vay was the first to startup satanism in the US during the 60's Theirs been alot of wannabies since but the true satanist are the le vay clan (le vay died awhile back)

Levay and the founder of Scientology were friends.


Some of their commandments:

Do whateva you want as long as it doesn't harm others.
Well ok i can dig that :cool:

In this world there are the hunters and the hunted, if you see a situation arise where a fool is not watching his belongings and you see the opertunity to take it from him then do so as this is not your fault but his. He is the hunted. Do not harm him in the process though, if it comes to violence then cease the desire to steal from him.

Err ok . :huh:

If someone annoys you say to them politely please stop what you are doing, if he/she doesn't then destroy him. :huh: :huh:

Have no guilt whatsoeva that is for the weak who follow God. :dead: :nope:

:roll:

Indeed, that is the correct situation. But I do not see a problem with that, that is not also present in religion.

The idea of allowing some restraints on your own freedom (such as the freedom to randomly murder people) is generally considered acceptable if the restriction also applies to others within the community. You do not need a deity for a community to realize that some acts should be discouraged to get a reasonably safe situation.

The problem an atheist has in finding some objective, ultimate truth about what is good or bad is real (at least if the atheist feel the need to think about that, for some the practical conventions that make things a bit safer for everyone are adequate). However, this is no more complicated than the problem of deciding if one religion is completely true, and if such a religion exists, which of the mutually contradictory religions is the true one. As long as there is no unanimous agreement on how to decide this, you just end up with different people with different ideas about the absolute truth. But unlike the atheist, who is more likely to realize the difficulty of the question, many of the religious ones may be fanatical in their belief of their specific true religion, and get in conflicts with others who equally fanatically believe in a different absolute truth.

It feels like being beyond your conceptions of profane versus sacral, human versus idol, nihilistic versus divine. In other words: it feels like being what Nietzsche called the Übermensch.

You never red about radical construcivism, did you? Where have I spoken about gods in that quote above? You attempt says more about your view of life, than about mine. ;)

To me, all what humans call gods and dieties, is man-made: idols only. Human concepts, in other words.

then try again, if you wish:

http://freenet-homepage.de/Skybird/Whatitsabout.pdf

Cheers Skybird!
Are you up to answering questions about that text in a different thread if I have any one I have read through it?
Looks like a good read from the first page.

Sounds like you have also determined who the Üntermensch will be. Anyone who doesn't hold your views. Sorry pal but making yourself a devine being only isolates yourself and any others of the same view.

That is the problem. Once you set yourself above people everyone else is of lower value. See Adolf Hitler and his ideas about the Übermensch.

Very funny, waste gate.

Wouldn't that unite him with any others of the same view and isolate you? :hmm:

Waste Gate, I have my doubts that you even read some of the postings you feel fit to respond to. that does not hinder you to become offending whenever you feel rethorics would compensate your lack of arguments.

And since this is for the repeated time now, and since I saw you doing this towards others as well, you have the honour to be put on my to-be-ignored list from now on, so better don't waste your time with me anymore.

OK. :D