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FIREWALL 03-23-07 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by THE_ORZEL
Actually there is Liberator 24 or close looking bomber named long range bomber in SH4 already. But the original Liberator from SH3 looks nice too in SH4.

Chris aka Orzel

Your work so far is really exciteing.:up:
I hope the planes can be brought over. The ones in SH-4 are imho
ATROCIUS. That B-24doesn't look like anyone i've ever seen. It looks
more German. Also the Corsair was big in the PTO.

Madox58 03-23-07 03:06 AM

Models themselves, are no more complicated then in SH3.
It's all in the graphics engine.
Shouldn't take long to pump up to the SH4 standards.

urfisch 03-24-07 08:07 AM

any news on that? anyone tried to import a sh3 commandroom into sh4? or any other interiour graphics?

THE_ORZEL 03-24-07 05:52 PM

I have ported Type 2 and Type 7B as player controlled ships with interior. It works I had some few minor problems but it shouldn’t be that difficult for hardcore modders or even beginners.

In some instances you need to create don’t remember what now because I’m testing things out in general to see how far I can get, but in some cases you need to add things from dat sh3 to dat sh4 for it to work properly and do the same to related files.

PS. It’s safe to say or it’s a guarantee that in a short while you should see all SH3 ships (objects) including German playable subs ported to SH4 and ready as some sort of mod.

Chris

badhat17 03-24-07 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Boris
Ubisoft technically owns any modification of the game that is made anyway. So if uploading Ubi property as mods was an issue, they would have stopped it a long time ago.

It has been an issue before and they did warn a mod group about making models available for download so I would tread carefully guys. :cool:

THE_ORZEL 03-24-07 06:34 PM

All you have to do is mod that ship from original structure even minor change makes it legal to have it ready for mod. The only legal issue is if you would use it for different game or it was different company with different copyrights etc.

This is UBI and that Romanian software developer same as in SH3 so tell me how can it be illegal? All you do is promoting SH4 so that more people buy SH4. As far as SH3 well it is already outdated Sim and that’s why they did SH4. They made porting so easy my guess is that they hoped that people would port things from SH3 to SH4. It only benefits SH4 which is the game of today :) and not SH3 which is the game of yesterday.

Legal issue is to modify main exe that runs SH4 but nobody is doing that because there is no need for it unless someone makes a crack for the game which by modifying sh4.exe makes it illegal.

And if there is an issue then I’m sure they will contact SH4 community about it and let us know. Nobody is selling it or using it for material gain.

Badhat17 I like your flag! Arrr matey is it time to rape and pillage! ;)

Chris

matzeesn 03-24-07 06:37 PM

How you get the type2/7 working? I tryed it too, but for now, my 7c is only in the museum. If I want to start a mission, the game switch to propoise, from which I took the files. I have a lot data manipulated, but I've no success, till now.

Greetings, Matze

THE_ORZEL 03-24-07 06:41 PM

Just for testing I replaced few of the existing US subs.

Chris

matzeesn 03-24-07 07:12 PM

Ah, ok. I'm trying to add the old subs.
Did you renamed the old subs to the us subs?

Matze

badhat17 03-24-07 08:21 PM

Chris,

The previous issue that UBI had with us here was over the pacific aces mod which included models ported from destroyer command into the PA mod for SH2. They were not happy that whoever downloaded the mod would be able to use models from a game they had never bought. Some agreement was reached although I do not know the details of that but I am sure you will agree that it would be a similiar situation if somebody was to make available a mod which allowed a user of SH4 to import models from SH3 and the mod itself included the models.
If the models are user modded from original UBI models then they would still remain the property of UBI .
I never said anything about any legal issues, all I said was tread carefully. At the end of the day I think we would all agree that permission should be sought concerning this, that is only fair. I would not like it if somebody was taking food from my table without asking first.
I have no idea how you came to the conclusion I was promoting SH4 at all, if anything I am saying buy SH3 as well.

Madox58 03-24-07 08:27 PM

If Ubi is gonna break out the Ruler and slap our hands,
It will come pretty soon.
Seems to me that they left this all WIDE OPEN by design!
It would have been SO easy to prevent it!!!

AG124 03-24-07 08:54 PM

Ubisoft models
 
Also, it's not as if someone is providing Ubisoft's intellectual property for use with another company's game. The models are being imported into one Ubisoft game from another.:yep: This, of course, is still legally preventable by Ubisoft, but the point is that they should worry about abuse of their property, as it is being contained within their own games.

THE_MASK 03-24-07 08:56 PM

I dont see a problem adding SH3 stuff to SH4 . More sales for SH4 . I do see a problem adding SH4 stuff to SH3 .

Madox58 03-24-07 09:03 PM

Some of that will most likely be a hardcode issue.
How do you add the parachute guys to SH3?
If no trigger is in SH3 than can't be robbed over.
Dats use some different scheme for skins.
I DOUBT a quick swap will work as I have not seen
this done yet.
It seems to be a two way street with a Bobby directing
traffic!!
:rotfl: :rotfl:

THE_MASK 03-24-07 09:06 PM

I dont mean a problem literally converting SH4 to SH3 , i meam ethically .


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