whoops lol error there, wut im saying is that AMD's FX and 64,X2 line beat the P4 but since C2D uses a miniature version of amds architecture amd will lose in benchmarking BUT, since amd always releases something better after Intel, AMD releases something better then Intel waits a few years to release a cpu that had effect on market like the pentium 4, while AMD releases big increments in their cpu technonolgy every 2 years, thats y now theres a shortage of Opterons for socket 939 and AM2, so basically if both companies started at same point at the rate they r going amd would have been generations ahead of intel, only reason intel is considred "top dog" is because of advertising and its releationship wit microsoft.

fyi error i wrote, C2D DOES BEAT the 939 and AM2 but thing is amd is releasing new designs this summer which will beat intels for the next few years. thats y i stick with amd,

The K8L design MAY beat the Core 2 Duo/Quad. There is no guarantee as of this point, as no chips have yet been produced. Right now, Intel and the Core 2 Duo/Quad are the undisputed kings of processing power. K8L may change this, especially as AMD's 65nm process goes to work (as AMD's reliance on the current 90nm fabrication is one of the things holding it and the K8 back). However, the fact that Intel is working to release the 45nm Penryn chip ASAP may allow C2D and C2Q to continue to produce higher performance than AMD's products, including the 65nm K8L.

heres a pic THIS NOT MY SYSTEM, this is just a pic to give a general idea of wut my system will look like but i can tell u the cables are messier,

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/5...tsystemee3.jpg

All of which should be good news for the consumer as both Intel and AMD continue to push one another. For too long AMD blew Intel away. Finally Intel have raised the bar and hopefully AMD will respond. Qite frankly I don't care for favouring Intel over AMD or AMD over Intel. I just go for the best price/performance CPU that I can get my hands on. :up:

Agreed...that's one of the reasons I'm defending Intel at the moment...I'm certainly no fanboy, both my systems are AMD based...but if I were to buy a system today, it'd be Intel powered.

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i checked thnx for answer, lol a friend showed me his laptop and he gave me a windowx xp-vista winrar file but his start menu etc.. its all good lol it even looks like it has aero glass on it. thnx for reply

Commador 64:up:

old school!!!!:rock: :rock: ur c64 murkes my quad fx by -999999999.12344%

Umm...I have a C64 emulator...

All joking aside, I have:

AMD 3200+
Some sort of Nvida motherboard
1 Gig RAM
Gforce 6200 OC 256mb videocard
It has two spinny things for CD-ROM and DVD-ROM. These are cool because a drawer slides out and you put the disc in. Then it slides back in.
For cooling it sits in my basement where it is 70 degrees all the time. There are 3 little fans that pull in the cool air and all the dust in my basement.

She is a Yugo of computers but she is my Yugo. She will just have to hold the line for a while!

Athlon 64 3000+ :)
1.5 RAM DDR :)
GeForce 7600GS 256MB :)
HD 80GB Samsung :-?

:arrgh!:

That's a nice system elite_hunter_sh3 Could I interest you in the latest video card?

Here’s a new video card for you
BFG nVidia GeForce
8800GTX Water Cooled
Edition 768MB

2D VI/HD CP PCI-Express
Video card

Price: $808.55

Requirements: Internal or External PC Water Cooling System; 2x 6pin PCI-Express supplementary power connectors; A 450W PCI Express-compliant system

• • Mfr Part Number: BFGR88768GTXWCE
  • Chipset: GeForce 8800 GTX
  • Engine Clock: 575 MHz
  • Video Memory: 768MB GDDR3
  • Memory Clock: 1.8 GHz
  • Memory Interface: 384-bit
  • Memory Bandwidth: 86.4 GB/sec
  • Bus: PCI-Express x16
  • RAMDAC: 400 MHz
  • Stream Processors: 128
  • Max. Resolution: 2560 x 1600
  • Connectors: Dual DVI (Support Dual VGA), TV-out (HDTV ready)
  • Thermal: Fanless
  • Support nVidia SLI Technology
  • Support HDCP - High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection
  • Support Microsoft DirectX 10.0, Shader Model 4.0 and OpenGL 2.0
  • power supply with a combined 12V current rating of 30A or more
  • Package: Retail

For only $200 more you could buy my whole rig


CPU P-4 3.00 GHz stock cooling
Chipset Intel 915
Mother Board MSI 915P
RAM 2 Sticks 512MB = 1GB DDR 400

HDD Seagate 320 GB sata II
Video Ati Sapphire X1600 Pro Pci-e
Sound Creative Sound Blaster
CD/DVD Pioneer DVD 105s
Modem Creative 56k 92v
Case 350W P/S 3 fans

lol thnx but no thankx , got 2 already and i hate water cooling its complicated huge risks and heavy maintenenace for minimal temperature drop, since its under consant pressure u have to check the dam connections every time u want to turn it on, u have to replace liquid every 3 weeks to keep it from being contaminated and eating away rubber. too much risks lol ill stick with my 2 800 gtx OC stock overclocked by BFG in SLI:arrgh!::arrgh!:

I bear no allegiance to either manufacturer either. Like you, and I suspect most, my money goes to whomever delivers the most attractive price/performance ratio when I'm in the market for a processor. Long ago it used to be Intel, then for the longest time it was AMD, and now my next system will house an Intel again. :up:

I'm just waiting to see what ATI delivers with respect to their upcoming DX10 solution, the R600. As good as NVIDIA's 8800 GTX looks, the R600 looks even more promising.

I'm a fan of whoever's on top :p . Right now Intel's 2.66GHz QX6700 beats out AMD's 3.0GHz FX74, and uses just over half the wattage to do it. Intel's quadcore is far more overclockable than the FX cpus are. Intel went to 65nm design a full year before AMD did...and now that AMD is finally releasing 65nm chips (not in the FX-74 mind you) Intel has already begun on 45nm process.....
I think its funny how AMD, who bought out ATI, has to run their quadcores on nVidia chipset (680a) for now.