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hyperion2206 02-02-07 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper
No way I will gun down survivors. In fact, I highly doubt you'll be able to in the first place. And if you do, it should work like torpedoing Red Cross hospital ships in GWX - in other words, career at an end.

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Mush Morton did it and got away with it [...]
It may have prevented him from getting the Medal of Honor.

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Well I would only gun survivors when the surwhivors are soldiers (like Mush Morton did). He killed survivors of an troop transport, saying that life boats are just smaller means of transportation an therefore fair game.
Right. Good luck hitting only the soldiers in the life-boats, though. Most of the "marines" sunk by Morton were in reality POWs from India.

As I said, I'd only shoot at soldiers, meaning that I would only shoot at people in life rafts that bear arms. Shooting at unarmed survivors is a 'DON'T' for me, although it's just a game.

StandingCow 02-02-07 06:06 PM

I might shoot one just to see if it does anything, but I would certainly not make it a practice. I would most likly just do what they did in Das boot, avoid them (unless they are american). Or if they start to climb on the boat... there is always the dive button. :D

The WosMan 02-02-07 06:50 PM

These guys are the enemy, they will give vital information back to their nation of how the attack went down and could be a liability to my boat location or american strategies..........boys, mount the .50s and open her up. The japanese were much more ruthless with their POWs and they murdered 10,000,000 chinese.....7,000,000 of them were civilians.

THE_MASK 02-02-07 06:55 PM

Thats what planes are for .

Biggles 02-02-07 06:57 PM

No. I wouldn't.

Safe-Keeper 02-02-07 06:57 PM

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Thats what planes are for .
Planes are for slaughtering Chinese civilians:-??

[/Major ":p"]

[Muses] 17 to 33... looks like the shipwrecked will be relatively safe.

The WosMan 02-02-07 07:06 PM

I guess I will just have to kill more to make up for you guys. This is a war people, you fight a war to win a war. I should have my grandfather share with you some of his WW2 stories of fighting the japanese. He managed a Japanese prison camp for a few months in New Guinea. The japanese were so fanatical they were highly dangerous to their prison keepers. I think some of the things done would be considered war crimes now.......way worse then Abu Garab.

Safe-Keeper 02-02-07 07:16 PM

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I guess I will just have to kill more to make up for you guys.
Good hunting:up:!

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This is a war people, you fight a war to win a war.
Just that warfare is an brutal insult to human dignity does not mean it should be as much so as possible. "War is terrible, so we can be terrible when waging war" is a non-functional argument.

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I should have my grandfather share with you some of his WW2 stories of fighting the japanese. He managed a Japanese prison camp for a few months in New Guinea. The japanese were so fanatical they were highly dangerous to their prison keepers. I think some of the things done would be considered war crimes now.......way worse then Abu Garab.
A sad chapter in American history. But it has no bearing on whether gunning down survivors in life-boats is right or wrong.

WOD 02-02-07 07:47 PM

I won´t shoot them.

Ok truly just a game but I imagine if I would have been really there.....
I think the biggest reason for me not to shoot them, was the fact that my grandfather who served on a Uboat....was sunk by an russian plane on patrol, which shooted at the survivors who had managed to leave the boat while sinking through the command room....my grandfather was wounded by 2 bullets from that plane and survived.

Ok how already said just a game...but remember ít´s called a sim....so it will simulate something....if someone want to shoot unarmed man with a machinegun then I would prefer him to play an ego-shooter like far cry or something (well the most mans in this game are armed and I still play this game sometimes too)

Ok everyone has to decide for him-/herself whether doing or not....but for me my own answer to that point of simulating the submarinewarfare is clear.

_Seth_ 02-02-07 08:54 PM

I will follow the old rule that all sailors are brothers.... I dont see the point in gunning down those people in lifeboats, and i dont think there will be awarded renown for it. I rather save the ammo for those Zero's. Just my 2 cents..:up:

elite_hunter_sh3 02-02-07 09:53 PM

HELL YEA NO SURVIVORS:arrgh!:

Ducimus 02-02-07 10:24 PM

Since i never really answered the question.

I'd probably be tempted to, given the conditions of that theater, but i'd probably hold back for two reasons:

1.) Poltical fallout with the brass when i hand in my patrol logs.
2.) As the captain you'd have to consider how this would effect the morale of your men.

In all seriousnes, I'd either try and capture one for intelligence if feasible, or, most likely, id turn away and let the sea do the dirty work for me.

elite_hunter_sh3 02-02-07 11:52 PM

in the game id prolly shoot em for entertainment. but in real life id give them small rations to keep em alive nd send em back with either a resupply boat or a uboat that has expended its torps and was heading home and met up with my uboat. im merciful with humans but ships all got to die!! (sink) :|\\:sunny::p:p:p

Ark 02-03-07 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by hyperion2206
Well I would only gun survivors when the surwhivors are soldiers (like Mush Morton did). He killed survivors of an troop transport, saying that life boats are just smaller means of transportation an therefore fair game.

Mush Morton sounds like an asshat. lol

stinger503 02-03-07 02:44 AM

Did any of you people see saving private ryan? They let that POW go and it ended up killing their men. For any of you who let sailors leave, I want you to imagine them rolling the depth charges off their deck, on to your sinking vessel. I however won't be killing transport (civilian) surviors, if they get new vessels, it's more targets for me. What I would do instead is watch the lifeboats and wait for a transport or destroyer to come pick them up. Then sink that too. :smug:

I will however destroy all of the lifeboats from warships except one. That way they can tell their navymen to watch out for the Penguin!


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