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The Avon Lady 01-30-07 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bradclark1
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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

I dunno. I read it three times and I didn't see any flippery. I see Rush trying to make it look like she flipped them. Her second statement was on Kosovo and he ties that to Iraq. He must still be using those drugs.:doh:

Forget about Rush's commentary. Just look at Hillary's words. Do I really have to point out the obvious to you?

Clinton in 2003:

"HILLARY: With respect to whose responsibility it is to disarm Saddam Hussein, I just do not believe that, given the attitudes of many people in the world community today, that there would be a willingness to take on very difficult problems, were it not for the United States leadership, and I'm talking specifically about what had to be done in Bosnia and Kosovo where my husband could not get a Security Council resolution to save the Kosovar Albanians from ethnic cleansing. And we did it alone as the United States, and we had to do it alone. And so I see it somewhat differently. So forgive me for my experience and perspective."

Clinton in 2007:

"HILLARY: I said that we should not go to war unless we have allies. So he took the authority that I and others gave him and he misused it, and I regret that deeply."

What part of the word "contradiction" don't you understand?

01-30-07 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky
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Yeh.

Just a presidential candidate 100% conflicting her own words of 4 years ago on a critical campaign issue.

Whatever.......................
No, the comparisons that Rush makes just dont make sense. And if he's really buggy about consistency, maybe he should think about what he's saying.

RUSHThe next bite she says that Bush should finish Iraq before he leaves.

HILLARY: I think it's the height of irresponsibility, and I really resent it. This was his decision to go to war. He went with an ill-conceived plan and an incompetently executed strategy, and we should expect him to extricate our country from this before he leaves office.

RUSH: All applause. You know what this is about. Bush has said that the war on terror will go on and on and on beyond his administration, and any expert in this realizes that that's the case. Mrs. Clinton here is saying (summarized), "Oh, no, no, no! You get all this stuff off the table before I take office in 2009."

Iraq does not equal the War On Terror, Rush. But your view of this depends if you believe there is one or not

The rest of the stuff is hogwash, too (geddit?). Hillary might be doing 24 backflips per second, but you wouldnt know it from that transcript.
Maybe I had to be there. Maybe it's a tone of voice issue. Maybe the audience understood. Maybe.


A bit on personal resentment.
http://www.nypost.com/php/pfriendly/..._podhoretz.htm

MadMike 01-30-07 03:23 PM

August wrote-

"Barry Goldwater?"

Nope.

Repeat- What law firm did Hillary Rodham intern for in the early '70's?


Yours, Mike

(Part of the vast right wing conspiracy)

The Avon Lady 01-30-07 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MadMike
Repeat- What law firm did Hillary Rodham intern for in the early '70's?

Heh heh:

"Bobby Seale’s lawyer introduced Hillary to Robert Treuhaft and his wife, Jessica Mitford. Both were avowed Communists, and Treuhaft for years served as the attorney for the Communist Party, USA. As the result of this meeting, Hillary spent the summer of 1971 as an intern in Treuhaft’s law office in Berkeley. (Barbara Olson, Hell to Pay, p. 57)"

bradclark1 01-30-07 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady
Forget about Rush's commentary. Just look at Hillary's words. Do I really have to point out the obvious to you?

Yes you do. I see Hilary talking about leadership and nowhere does it imply going it alone in Iraq.
Did you listen to the whole speech? Here it is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rOjmDsPg_s

ASWnut101 01-30-07 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady
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Originally Posted by bradclark1
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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

I dunno. I read it three times and I didn't see any flippery. I see Rush trying to make it look like she flipped them. Her second statement was on Kosovo and he ties that to Iraq. He must still be using those drugs.:doh:

Forget about Rush's commentary. Just look at Hillary's words. Do I really have to point out the obvious to you?

Clinton in 2003:

"HILLARY: With respect to whose responsibility it is to disarm Saddam Hussein, I just do not believe that, given the attitudes of many people in the world community today, that there would be a willingness to take on very difficult problems, were it not for the United States leadership, and I'm talking specifically about what had to be done in Bosnia and Kosovo where my husband could not get a Security Council resolution to save the Kosovar Albanians from ethnic cleansing. And we did it alone as the United States, and we had to do it alone. And so I see it somewhat differently. So forgive me for my experience and perspective."

Clinton in 2007:

"HILLARY: I said that we should not go to war unless we have allies. So he took the authority that I and others gave him and he misused it, and I regret that deeply."

What part of the word "contradiction" don't you understand?

seems like hillary pulled a john kerry to me.:doh:

bradclark1 01-30-07 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady
Heh heh:

"Bobby Seale’s lawyer introduced Hillary to Robert Treuhaft and his wife, Jessica Mitford. Both were avowed Communists, and Treuhaft for years served as the attorney for the Communist Party, USA. As the result of this meeting, Hillary spent the summer of 1971 as an intern in Treuhaft’s law office in Berkeley. (Barbara Olson, Hell to Pay, p. 57)"

So what exactly makes this bad?

Konovalov 01-30-07 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ASWnut101
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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady
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Originally Posted by bradclark1
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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

I dunno. I read it three times and I didn't see any flippery. I see Rush trying to make it look like she flipped them. Her second statement was on Kosovo and he ties that to Iraq. He must still be using those drugs.:doh:

Forget about Rush's commentary. Just look at Hillary's words. Do I really have to point out the obvious to you?

Clinton in 2003:

"HILLARY: With respect to whose responsibility it is to disarm Saddam Hussein, I just do not believe that, given the attitudes of many people in the world community today, that there would be a willingness to take on very difficult problems, were it not for the United States leadership, and I'm talking specifically about what had to be done in Bosnia and Kosovo where my husband could not get a Security Council resolution to save the Kosovar Albanians from ethnic cleansing. And we did it alone as the United States, and we had to do it alone. And so I see it somewhat differently. So forgive me for my experience and perspective."

Clinton in 2007:

"HILLARY: I said that we should not go to war unless we have allies. So he took the authority that I and others gave him and he misused it, and I regret that deeply."

What part of the word "contradiction" don't you understand?

seems like hillary pulled a john kerry to me.:doh:

Or a John McCain. Check this out: http://therealmccain.com/ :smug:

I thought this thread was about Senator Clinton not being able to sing the national anthem? :-? Oh yeah, I forgot. It's just another hack job thread like that debunked Barrack Obama one from a few weeks back. What a surprise. :roll:

01-30-07 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bradclark1
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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady
Heh heh:

"Bobby Seale’s lawyer introduced Hillary to Robert Treuhaft and his wife, Jessica Mitford. Both were avowed Communists, and Treuhaft for years served as the attorney for the Communist Party, USA. As the result of this meeting, Hillary spent the summer of 1971 as an intern in Treuhaft’s law office in Berkeley. (Barbara Olson, Hell to Pay, p. 57)"

So what exactly makes this bad?


Ask all the emigraes from the former Soviet Union what they think of communists.

I have yet to meet one who enjoyed communism or what it brought to the millions it was supposed to help.

fredbass 01-30-07 04:36 PM

I'm afraid to listen. Sorry, I just can't do it. :shifty: :88)

ASWnut101 01-30-07 04:40 PM

you're back!:up:

Tchocky 01-30-07 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by waste gate

That have anything to do with my post?

As regards her comment, it was a flaky enough thing to say, she could have used clearer words. Maybe she's angry at the position she took, God knows she should be, IMO. Maybe she resents the fact that the war really should be over by now.

01-30-07 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky
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Originally Posted by waste gate

That have anything to do with my post?

As regards her comment, it was a flaky enough thing to say, she could have used clearer words. Maybe she's angry at the position she took, God knows she should be, IMO. Maybe she resents the fact that the war really should be over by now.

You placed this in your post. I think it mentions resentment.
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HILLARY: I think it's the height of irresponsibility, and I really resent it. This was his decision to go to war. He went with an ill-conceived plan and an incompetently executed strategy, and we should expect him to extricate our country from this before he leaves office
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MadMike 01-30-07 06:59 PM

At least Barak Obama has an ear for music...

Yours, Mike

bradclark1 01-30-07 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by waste gate
Ask all the emigraes from the former Soviet Union what they think of communists.

I have yet to meet one who enjoyed communism or what it brought to the millions it was supposed to help.

What a joke. Exactly how did Hilary working for a law office who's senior partner happened to be an avowed communist effect the Soviet Union?
If Hilary worked on any pro communist or pro Soviet Union legal issues I'm sure Republicans would have been shouting from the roof tops.
So this is a worthless attempt at what?


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