Skybird, did you ever create a WW2 mission using you're above settings?
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Here's a couple of mine...
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Purchasing problem
I am trying to purchase SBproPE at the offer price of $85 but cannot get through to the credit card verification. I have left a message on the site but as yet no reply anybody else having a problem with the esim store?
I am UK based but I am sure that is not the problem. Update: Problem solved seemed to be an issue with Firefox |
Playable T-72 coming to SB Pro PE with next uppgrade, that is 2.6. :salute:
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I'm interested in trying Steel Beasts Pro, despite the high price, and the $20 dollar patches, but i have a few questions first:
1. Is the inside of the tank(s) clickable, or is it all keyboard shortcuts? 2. How obtrusive is the little dongle required? 3. Is there start up sequences for the tank(s)? Or are they always on? 4. Are all the functions of the tanks modeled? 5. Are there random failures? |
@ Smithlanger! Welcome to SubSim :sunny:
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Besides be careful about several facts about SBPro PE: - its graphic engine is very dated so it looks nowhere near to present PC games. No shadows, maybe still some sprites, no suspension effects in moving tanks, I am not sure about weather effects. So don't be surprised. - there is no campaign, career mode or similar single-player features. You have only independent single missions to play and mission editor to make your own scenarios. AFAIK map editor is not fully functional in civilian version. - there is multi-player over LAN and on the Internet (you have to know host IP address) - vast majority of playable vehicles do not possess interior graphics. Therefore you can only operate them seeing via various sights, visors and in unbuttoned commander's position. - I personally strongly doubt SBPro PE as a product for civilian market realistically replicates capabilities and performance of most modern military stuff present in this sim (Leo-2A5, M1A2 etc.) like ammunition power, armor protection, thermal sights range viewing through different obstacles, because they are top secret data after all. - the game alone costs 125 bucks (boxed version with printed manual). However remember next there are also payware upgrades costing 20-30 bucks apiece. I don't know how many of them was released in the past five years but you should calculate this too before purchasing SBPro PE. |
- as for interior graphics it's present basically inside those vehicles only: Abrams, Leopard-2, Leopard-1A5, T-72M1 tanks and Bradley, CV90, Pizarro IFVs and Centauro reconnaissance vehicle. So it's vast minority of playable stuff...that is not important for military users but I think for hardcore tanksim enthusiasts it can be an important issue.
- while it is true new customers do not pay for previous upgrades what I'd like to underline is new customers will be charged for next payware upgrades that are not cheap! As one can see price of two payware upgrades (patches) released so far constitutes about a half of SBPro PE unit price. - referring to SBPro versus SBPro PE I still strongly doubt both are almost the same product because one SBPro desktop license costs military customers 1800 USD (derived from fact that price of SBPro classroom license for ten desktops is 18000 USD) while price of SBPro PE individual license is only 100-125 USD . I do not think eSim sells identical product more than ten times cheaper on civilian market...I suppose SBPro PE includes opensource i.e. not very realistic or even misleading data while SBPro can be modified by military users with their own realistic data. |
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Now I think brand-new Graviteam production - Steel Armor: Blaze of War - is much superior to SBPro overpriced oldie. It has much much better graphics and wonderful tactical commanding experience intelligently linked with advanced tank simulation. Let's wait for free SA:BoW mods and multiplayer patch. Then we will say goodbye to eSim toy. During Christmas Holidays you could buy SA:BoW for only...15 bucks! I don't see any reason to continue this discussion with Skybird. I am sure other forum members will be able to draw right conclusions about SBPro PE game after reading this thread. :) |
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Live needn't necessarily be so complicated! Here you are brand-new Steel Armor: Blaze of War - realistic tactical and simulation experience with stunning graphics costing you only...30 bucks! Remember - you will not be charged for patches. All patches will be free! Also multiplayer feature will be most possibly added! Next - in accordance with previous Graviteam's games tradition - free mods will follow transforming SA:BoW into a new benchmark of tanksim games. Do you really need anything else??? Of course not! :rock: |
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You know - that's "an upgrade", not a patch! So don't hesitate any longer and buy "an upgrade" at once! Later wait for...FREE patches bug-fixing your "upgrade". :rotfl2: |
Hi, guys!
Another SBPro PE flaws have just surfaced after latests pay-ware patch release! Read this thread on eSim forum: It looks like not only BMP armor is a derision in this SB Pro PE toy but Challenger-2 tank overall capabilities, too! Its engine is very weak like some car engine, so this tank cannot keep up even with APCs! Additionally Challenger-2 cannot kill anything above T-72 and is on par with this ancient Soviet tank. In real life Challenger-2 is one of the best tanks worldwide - without any doubt! Challenger-2 firepower is ridiculously weak in SBPro PE toy while in reality it possesses one of the best L-27/L-28 APFSDS rounds on this planet. What eSim guy told customers on their forum is a clear idiocy! He "thinks" that armor penetration of old Soviet gun-launched "Reflex B" ATGM is 1300 mm. That is obviously not true - this ATGM has...almost two times lower penetration! Additionally this guy stated "SB, through some helpful information and educated assumptions from tankers, seemingly exposes those [Challenger-2] flaws " supposedly secretly guarded by British Army! What a joke! What else will they figure out to rebuff customers??? It looks like entire armor protection model is broken in this toy, probably after applying 2.640 payware patch worth...30 bucks. Now premiere Western tank is very weak, and Eastern stuff rules thanks to silly too powerful ammunition and "panzer-engined armor improvements". Of course one should know today Western armor is way better than old Soviet gear but eSim guys don't care about such "subtle differences". However it is quite "understandable" - magical "game balance" is most important feature in all console games and...now also "military grade tank-sims for civilian market" sold for 125 bucks! It seems they introduced first playable Soviet tank and subsequently "tuned down" Western stuff capabilities not to doom to certain defeat new T-72M1 drivers playing this toy... :rotfl2: That's way now it's time to try "STEEL ARMOR: BLAZE OF WAR" - brand-new realistic and well-documented tank simulation software! In the basic package you'll get two historically balanced and carefully chosen tanks: Soviet T-62 and American M60A1. Now you can fight each other with full accordance with historical and technical realities - each tank has its own pros and cons but both are very-well suited for balanced tank battles on tactical scale. In 2012 we can forget about ancient overpriced sim-toys, now we can experience real and beautifully looking tank-sims! :rock: |
Gorshkov, you have a PM.
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