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Hi Vecko
Couple of interesting points I have noticed for the first time in a long time since starting this new 100% career.
Baltic Operation has recorded correctly.
Although I requested BCW I chose to do BTF when it appeared on the nav map.
BTF has also recorded correctly.
One first is definetely the correct date showing in the Captains Log for sinking the Royal Sovereign.
I cannot remember the last time I saw a correct date.
Oddly also my BCW patrol area AN1814 covers Scapa and although I received the radio report to say that my 48 hours had started I did have enough real time without making a game save.
Latest campaign file save.

Peter

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Baltic Operation has recorded correctly.

No, it is not...Did you actually sink something in Danzing?

Code:

[Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 6.PersObj 1]

PersObjType=0

Name=Danzig_Bay

Description=Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 6.PersObj 1.Description

RelatedMapLocations=Baltic zone

IsCompleted=false



[Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 6.PersObj 1.Amount]

IsTonnage=false

Tonnage=0

NumOfShips=2



[Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 6.PersObj 1.CrtAmount]

IsTonnage=false

Tonnage=0

NumOfShips=0

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Although I requested BCW I chose to do BTF when it appeared on the nav map.
BTF has also recorded correctly.

Yes, in case of BTW objective your invisible tonnage bar worked correctly...

One more proof that TB/OSI bug (call it whatever) has no head or tails...:doh:...

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Originally Posted by vdr1981 (Post 2406009)

No, it is not...Did you actually sink something in Danzing?

Yes, in case of BTW objective your invisible tonnage bar worked correctly...

One more proof that TB/OSI bug (call it whatever) has no head or tails...:doh:...

If you check the failed status, you can see that it has recorded as a fail. So the campaign was updated at the end of the Danzig objective

Hi Vecko
Yes, as usual you are right.
I read true incorrectly.
peter

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Originally Posted by THEBERBSTER (Post 2406075)

Hi Vecko
Yes, as usual you are right.
I read true incorrectly.
peter

Hi Peter:salute:

Did you sink a ship in danzig area?
Did the Luft attack any ships?
Did the cross get filled in the campaign progress bar?

Sorry for all the questions:oops: Any chance you can upload your save file:D

Hi Trevally

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Did you sink a ship in danzig area?

I sank 2 ships
Gryf Minelayer
Hog Island Type A

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Did the Luft attack any ships?

Yes both warships were flying around both blazing.

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Did the cross get filled in the campaign progress bar?

Playing TWOS no campaign progress bar.

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Any chance you can upload your save file

In the spoiler in my last post #5816.
Peter

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Originally Posted by THEBERBSTER (Post 2406125)

Hi Trevally
I sank 2 ships
Gryf Minelayer
Hog Island Type A
Yes both warships were flying around both blazing.

Thanks Peter, most helpful:salute:

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Playing TWOS no campaign progress bar.

:up:

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In the spoiler in my last post #5816.
Peter

Sorry, it is the "CareerTrack.upc" that I need to see
Could you paste the full file or upload:subsim:

Hi Trevally

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it is the "CareerTrack.upc" that I need to see

In the spoiler.

Peter

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Originally Posted by THEBERBSTER (Post 2406179)

Hi Trevally
In the spoiler.

Peter

This is very helpful Peter - many thanks:salute:

Code:

[CareerTrack 1.CareerStatusSave 11]

ID=

Reason=CSS_UnitDestroyed

NameDisplayable=Gryf

CurrentDate=0000-00-00 01:19:41

UniqueID=1513672788658900037

Title=September 1, 1939, 01:19

Text=Long  19° 08' E, Lat  54° 41' N|Ship sunk! Gryf Class Minelayer, 2227 tons

EntryStatus=1

LocationName=

Location=0,2.65861e-032

TargetLocation=0,7.05315e-030

UnitDestroyed=MLGryf,Gryf

EUnitType=12

EUnitSide=1

Tonnage=2227



[CareerTrack 1.CareerStatusSave 16]

ID=

Reason=CSS_UnitDestroyed

NameDisplayable=_PL Medium Merchant#3

CurrentDate=0162-44-72 09:03:12

UniqueID=2764895940691931613

Title=September 1, 1939, 09:03

Text=Long  18° 52' E, Lat  54° 30' N|Ship sunk! Hog Island Type A Freighter, 4173 tons

EntryStatus=1

LocationName=

Location=0,4.31553e-031

TargetLocation=0,2.65846e-032

UnitDestroyed=KMSSHogIsland,_PL Medium Merchant#3

EUnitType=108

EUnitSide=1

Tonnage=4173

As you can see, both you kills in danzig are being recorded and progressing your campaign as you play.

The campaign fill did not register this kills but did register that the dansig objective was failed and allowed campaign progress.

Both these ship kills have bugged dates:hmmm:

Your Scapa objecive was recorded as a pass with one kill.

Could you please post the section from the .upc file that shows this.:)

:subsim:

Hi Trevally
AFAIK what you see in the spoiler is all I have.

The CareerTrack UPC file is dated 21st May 21.37 from the UPCInitial folder
My last game save is 00000012 21st May 22.46
Peter

Oh ok thanks Peter.
This file only gets updated when you end patrol and you must be still at sea:D

Could you check your capt log to the entry when you sank the BB in scapa and see if the date and time of sinking is in the correct format or is bugged

Cheers
John

Hi Trevally
For the first time since I can remember it had the correct sinking date, I was actually quite shocked to see it.:up:
Maybe of no consequence but BCW was the mission requested not BTF.
All requested missions always have corrupted dates.
Although my patrol area AN1814 covering BTW had started, I had to make a save because I ran out of real time.
IIRC sober has removed this feature from his mega mod because of all the date corruptions.
Peter

Thanks Peter - that great

RE: what objective was requested in the bunker.
When you request an objective in the bunker like BCW it only effects the secondary mission that then gets loaded with in.
So if a main objective is available due to date and you have not selected it - it will still work on the campaign if player does it

RE: bugged dates
This could be related to a TDWs journal logging?

I am just trying the piece together the facts about the campaign when it does not move forward and when it does.
Things I am looking at are mostly date related as along with Vecko, I do think the tonnage system is one we can leave in the bin.
So changing the campaign to date flowing is where I am focusing.

Issues with dates controlling campaigns are:-
+- by location (not GMT)
Dates as triggers do not work (stock game bug)
Bunker time missing campaign date end (I am trying to fix this one)

:up:

Hi again Peter:D

When you finish your patrol (back in base) could you post your .upc file again.

We can see that the ships with the bugged dates did not count as a pass on your campaign when they should have. I would like to see at the end of your patrol if they did count to your career record:up:

this is your polish ship kill:-

[CareerTrack 1.CareerStatusSave 11]
ID=
Reason=CSS_UnitDestroyed
NameDisplayable=Gryf
CurrentDate=0000-00-00 01:19:41
UniqueID=1513672788658900037
Title=September 1, 1939, 01:19
Text=Long 19° 08' E, Lat 54° 41' N|Ship sunk! Gryf Class Minelayer, 2227 tons
EntryStatus=1
LocationName=
Location=0,2.65861e-032
TargetLocation=0,7.05315e-030
UnitDestroyed=MLGryf,Gryf
EUnitType=12
EUnitSide=1
Tonnage=2227

The date is bugged but the tonnage looks like it is being recorded to you (just not your campaign)
Something interesting is that the title has recorded the date and time correctly:hmmm:

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Title=September 1, 1939, 01:19

Here is coldcalls

[CareerTrack 1.CareerStatusSave 22]
ID=
Reason=CSS_UnitDestroyed
NameDisplayable=Gryf
CurrentDate=1939-09-01 05:43:02
UniqueID=-6340397090880706155
Title=September 1, 1939, 05:43
Text=Long 19° 11' E, Lat 54° 39' N|Ship sunk! Gryf Class Minelayer, 2227 tons
EntryStatus=1
LocationName=
Location=0,4.31553e-031
TargetLocation=0,2.65846e-032
UnitDestroyed=MLGryf,Gryf
EUnitType=12
EUnitSide=1
Tonnage=2227

date recorded correctly for ship and title
plus it also counted towards his campaign

Trev, how do you control French harbor air raids ? Which files are responsible and can we affect type and number of the planes involved in air raid?:hmmm:

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Originally Posted by vdr1981 (Post 2406654)

Trev, how do you control French harbor air raids ? Which files are responsible and can we affect type and number of the planes involved in air raid?:hmmm:

Hi Vecko

There is a way to prevent AI attacks by using threat zones. They have their own layer in the campaign. I have never been able to verify if they actually work - I suspect that they don't.

Another option is to restrict the airbases. Here we can replace some large air bases (South UK and Northern Ireland) with smaller ones. The smaller bases have no long range bombers.

Next option is to control what is in each air base. This is done within the air base .cfg (found under "Land" unit.
Here is one example (\Silent Hunter 5\data\Land\LAB_LargeAirBaseGB)

Code:

[Unit]

ClassName=LargeAirBaseGB

3DModelFileName=data/Land/LAB_LargeAirBaseGB/LAB_LargeAirBaseGB

UnitType=406

MaxSpeed=0.000000

MinSpeed=0.000000

Length=1

Width=1



[AirGroup 1]

StartDate=19380101

EndDate=19410601

Squadron1Class=FHurricaneMkI

Squadron1No=48

Squadron2Class=TBBeaufort

Squadron2No=24

Squadron3Class=FBBeaufighter

Squadron3No=24

Squadron4Class=LBSAnson

Squadron4No=12

Squadron5Class=SSunderland

Squadron5No=6

Squadron6Class=LBWellington

Squadron6No=8

Squadron7Class=FBSpitfireMkVc

Squadron7No=36



[AirGroup 2]

StartDate=19410602

EndDate=19430601

Squadron1Class=FHurricaneMkI

Squadron1No=48

Squadron2Class=TBBeaufort

Squadron2No=12

Squadron3Class=FBMosquitoMkVI

Squadron3No=12

Squadron4Class=FBBeaufighter

Squadron4No=12

Squadron5Class=LBSUSMedWar

Squadron5No=6

Squadron6Class=SSunderland

Squadron6No=4

Squadron7Class=LBWellington

Squadron7No=6

Squadron8Class=FBSpitfireMkVc

Squadron8No=36

Squadron9Class=LBMkVIHalifax

Squadron9No=5

Squadron10Class=LBLancaster

Squadron10No=5



[AirGroup 3]

StartDate=19430602

EndDate=19451231

Squadron1Class=FHurricaneMkI

Squadron1No=48

Squadron2Class=FBMosquitoMkVI

Squadron2No=12

Squadron3Class=FBMosquitoMkXVIII

Squadron3No=12

Squadron4Class=LBSUSLateWar

Squadron4No=12

Squadron5Class=SSunderland

Squadron5No=10

Squadron6Class=SUSFloatEarlyWar

Squadron6No=6

Squadron7Class=SUSHeavyBomberVLR

Squadron7No=10

Squadron8Class=LBB17Fortress

Squadron8No=8

Squadron9Class=FBSpitfireMkVc

Squadron9No=36

Squadron10Class=LBMkVIHalifax

Squadron10No=5

Squadron11Class=LBLancaster

Squadron11No=5

You can see that this is split into 3 by date.
Each one sets the aeroplane type and number.
removing or reducing the long range bombers could give the result of less or smaller raids.
If you remove the longest range bomber - you will see that the radius in the air layer for that base type change to match.

Next would be to adjust the actual range of the unit in the air units files.

:salute:

Hi Trevally
I requested BCW.
BTF was not available.

I am finding it impossible with 100% realism to complete a 48 hour patrol area as I just run out of real time.
72 hours not a hope in hell.
3-4 hours an evening is not enough time when having to use the hydrophone and with difficulty moving on the Easy Coast during daylight through the amount of air patrols without taking damage.
I prefer the SH3 24 hour patrols as they are at least achievable.
I cannot see the point in staying in one place and winding the TC up to complete the objective.
I think I will still request the missions but not do them unless I get a special operation.
Peter

If I travel on surface at night . Avoid heavy air traffic areas while travelling to a destination I hardly ever see a plane . Also don't get spotted by ships you don't need to sink . I do not have a problem with planes .

Hi sober
I am with you on this.
It is frustrating during the day in BCW when you pick up a hydrophone contact 18km away for instance and then you get shot up or bombed trying to intercept it.
Peter