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Aktungbby 01-11-14 01:24 PM

Its not your system: I can't get it either now and I copied the site verbatim. I'm interested in that Austrian Army book too, as it was one of three references in the Lloyd sites on google. I doubt my local library will have it but I'll check there as well... they actually have a good military section. But under 'Lloyd CII Aircraft', the enlarged thumbnail is worth the thousand words with a crewman in the shot holding up the tail; His head width...and the span gap between the wing ribs is about 6"-8"s.

Sailor Steve 01-11-14 02:00 PM

As I've said, a friend of mine owns a copy. I'm just waiting to hear back from him.

Buddahaid 01-11-14 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aktungbby (Post 2162825)
Sorry: http:[URL=XXX site below it. The Hiero engine Lloyd CII site has a large unclear photo [B]and[/B] a small thumbnail photo which can be enlarged and is quite clear; showing the left upper underside of the normal ribbed wing. The CII site mentions the plywood fuselage but says nothing about wings. If the CII wings were plywood also the site should mention that as well, as it does for the CV. Apparently the CV plywood wing had a tendancy to peel in the slipstream if damaged as well as the moisture problem. Also viewed Knights of the Air:Made in Austria and Special Hobby1/48 Model Madness of a Lloyd CV. The CIII and CIV renditions show the wing poorly, as you say, but in that 'yellow' dope color you discussed in a previous post, again indicating a fabric rather than plywood wing.


That Wiki link redirects to some advert site that wants you to update your media player. I'd kill it now.

Jimbuna 01-12-14 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buddahaid (Post 2162951)
That Wiki link redirects to some advert site that wants you to update your media player. I'd kill it now.

The current redirection is:

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Sailor Steve 01-13-14 04:18 PM

The propeller logo decals came to day, and they are stunning! Well worth the $13.50 I paid for each of them. Unfortunately I bought the first of four sheets of German decals, and the ones I really wanted are on sheet four, as most of the Eindekker photos show Integral Propeller logos, with one from Germania. Oh well, I'll make do.

German Propeller Logos #1 consists of four different versions of the markings for Franz Reschke GmbH.
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ps704c09d1.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ps4f3d0950.jpg

It's the Austro-Hungarian sheet that has me excited.
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ps96571ab7.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ps417c85b9.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ps8c4a2dc4.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...psc0e3e117.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ps5ab660fa.jpg

Sailor Steve 01-13-14 09:22 PM

I got the propeller decals on the Eindekker and it's done.

Fokker M5K/MG
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ps9fdd312c.jpg

The wings have been relocated to represent the early "shoulder" position.
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ps25379551.jpg

Early serial number. This indicates the fourth one converted. The first one went to Lt. Otto Parschau, numbers two and three going to his students Max Immelmann and Oswald Boelke. Number four was apparently retained at the factory for testing and development, which is why I chose it. Number five was flown by Lt. Kurt Wintgens, who scored the first Fokker victory on July 1, 1915. This was not credited, but his third victory on July 15 was the first to be so. It seems that all E.Is up through #16 were labelled "E" with the number following, after which they became "Fok. E.I xxx/15".
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...pscf82c794.jpg

Close-up showing the early mounting of the Parabellum gun. This proved to have an unstable rate of fire, which made it hard to synchronize. Later all forward-firing guns were converted to the Spandau 08, the Parabellum guns being reserved for use by observers.
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...psa03d0e6c.jpg

Front view showing the Oberusel U.0 seven-cylinder 80-horsepower engine and the propeller logos.
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ps3bb597cf.jpg

Close-up showing the Werke (factory) number (194) and the oil stains on the fabric. All engines of the period, and especially the rotaries, tended to throw oil at an alarming rate. This led to certain problems for the pilots, which was relieved by keeping stocks of elderberry wine on hand. The oil also soaked into the fabric and was impossible to remove, so fabric coverings became increasingly splotched in appearance, especially the undersides.
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ps3753cee7.jpg

While doing research I came upon a discussion from 2007 continuing the argument over Fokker E-type designations, particularly E.I and E.II. The contributor there claimed access to the original documents and said that he couldn't understand why the leading expert would make such a mistake, but insisted that Peter Grosz was wrong. My only conclusion is the one I seem to come to a lot: I don't know.

Jimbuna 01-14-14 07:03 AM

Decals look even better than your description :sunny:

Buddahaid 01-14-14 08:20 PM

I love that one Steve. Breathing castor oil fumes and such was an often unrelated part of the romantic notion of being a pilot. :o

Sailor Steve 01-19-14 09:26 PM

Six days after photographing the Eindekker and nine days after doing any real work, I finally got started again on the Lloyd.

Fuselage is together and lower wings mounted.
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ps236fefc8.jpg

BossMark 01-24-14 12:38 PM

Just bought Tamiya 1\350 scale model of the Tirpitz battleship with all the correct paint colours I will post screen shots in this thread if Steve dont mind (seems better than starting a new thread)

Jimbuna 01-24-14 12:42 PM

Nice kit :cool:

http://modelingmadness.com/review/mi...gertirpitz.htm

Step by step:

http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum...?f=59&t=109357

Sailor Steve 01-24-14 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossMark (Post 2167411)
Just bought Tamiya 1\350 scale model of the Tirpitz battleship with all the correct paint colours I will post screen shots in this thread if Steve dont mind (seems better than starting a new thread)

Not at all. There are pictures here by others. Tamiya makes great kits. :yep: :sunny:

How far do you want to go with it? As Jim's links show, there are companies that make superfine photo-etched detail parts. You can buy sets of accurate KM doors and hatches, railings, AA guns and more. There is even a real wood deck set available.
http://www.hlj.com/product/kalmd35011/Nav

Sailor Steve 01-24-14 07:06 PM

After a three day delay I finally put the landing gear together, but didn't take a picture. Two days later I put the tail fins on and started puttying up the seams. I'm going real slow on this one, and I'm not sure why.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...psd5044a03.jpg

Buddahaid 01-24-14 08:45 PM

Looking good. I've had trouble getting back into the building groove all month. Part of my trouble is the current build is a run of eight units and they all need lot's of work on the resin parts as well as being large and complicated. Eight is too many and I'll not do that again.

Sailor Steve 01-24-14 10:18 PM

Yeah, eight is a lot. The last time I tried two I had to separate them and finish them one at a time. I'll have some more "twofers" in the future, but they should be simpler and easier.

I don't know if I'm just burnt out, suffering from lack of sleep or suffering from depression again. Possibly a combination of all three and more. Whatever the cause, I'm just not feeling like doing much of anything lately.


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