Or words backed up by a legal guarentee of compensation for failing to honor the words. Which you won't get and as such will indicate just how COMMITTED they are to it.

I trust what you are telling me, I wanted to say , that I didn't think they could do a thing like that, so I wanted a case , a example , a story about it.
I didn't wanted to insult anybody , if I did that please accept my apologies.

I don't feel insulted, so no need to apologize.
Examples:
Our energy company, my previous ISP, the company where I bought my car, the place where I used to do my fitness and so on, companies from which I bought software.

A will not go into details (for privacy reasons) about the mentioned companies, so you have to trust me on my word.

I wanted a example with Ubi, or GFWL doing that thing to users.

In this thread there is an example mentioned how UBI installed spyware.
You need to search for it, since I can't recall where exactly.

EDIT:
Found it here

And DRM will only harm consumers - US, pirates always find a way...

It doesn't matter to me if they collect nothing at all. If I buy a game and want to play on my computer, and I'm not playing with others online, then I shouldn't be forced by someone else to be online while I play offline.

It's called tyranny, and some of us won't stand for it.

Scenario: A company has come up with a new way of making more money out of games by forcing its customers to connect to its servers to provide better "service".

After seeing the trends on players likes and dislikes new game content is developed to line up with player likes and wants and little or no work is done on less used parts of the game. (In future releases, these features would end up not being included).

The new content is payware which is offered as part of the login to their servers. "Would you like the campaign files that take you to the end of WWII?" for example. "Just put your credit card details in and we will install it for you." You want it pay for it and it is installed over the wire.

Good or bad? Who for?

Payware is fine by me . Its a way of getting quality stuff . If it aint good enough then who will buy it . Payware plus free mods should add up to being a good game overall . BTW where did Ubi ever mention payware for SH5 ? Someone gave an example of Ubi offering a ship for $10 . For $10 it would have to be the best modelled ship ever produced and then some . Maybe a fully detailed playable sub with all the compartments for $10 .

I had my pre-order in....I have subsequently cancelled it.

I'm not mesing about with this DRM nonsense. I usually take my laptop to my parents house when I go visit for a few days. They don't have internet, so that means I wouldn't be able to play SH5 when I go there.

If UBI ever get their thumbs from out of their behinds and realise that they are losing (and ticking off) customers (i.e. the people who essentially pay their wages), and remove DRM, then yes, I will buy it, but not until.

No-one inside Ubi has mentioned it... yet. I'm merely sepculating on a potential reason why Ubi would want all of its customers connected to its servers.

If its not for SHV then perhaps another of their more popular upcoming titles? Remember that OSP is going to be universal across their range of PC gaming product not just SHV.

I was going to buy SHV, but not after this DRM issue.
I don't think ubisoft will pay us one bit of attention, they will release the game with the DRM. Should sales be poor, they will not for one second consider it to be due to the DRM, they will just declare subsim's to be a dead market and move on. Should sales be good, it will encourage ubisoft and other game developers to include this kind of crap in their own games.
I didn't buy ubisoft products for a long time due to the "keycode in use issue" with Farcry.
I will not buy Massive Warefare2 because of no dedicated servers.
Was going to buy Battlefield Bad Company 2, but not now, they are not going to release server files which means clans will have to rent dedicated ranked server's at a premium price.premium=overpriced
They don't consider us to be loyal customers, but as sheep to be sheared.
They don't care if i buy their game or not, I'm only one person. It matters to me though, and I'll not pay to support this attitude they have. This all is a sign of things to come.

Thanks for the heads up on this issue.

My order is now canceled!

My Moo for today :D

Moooooooooooooooo!:salute: