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STEED 05-21-15 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MGR1 (Post 2315258)

In the meantime, immigration of skilled workers is needed to plug the gaps. As for unskilled workers, yes, limit them, but the native population had better be prepared to do the really crud low pay jobs many of them do, like cleaning toilets, or town centers on Saturday and Sunday morning, or being a maid or nanny etc, etc. At the moment I can't see an attitude shift like that happening, unfortunately.:down:

I know some one who cleans toilets and his biggest gripe is the lousy pay which probably puts a lot of people off, not everyone can do that kind of job that said pay low end workers more and your may get more Brits doing these kinds of jobs.

And proper real training for school leavers not these silly government massage the figures courses. I will always remember from the radio this school leaver went on a six month pluming course and he completed it went around all the plumbers in his area all turn him down, two said they would take him on if he completed a proper three year course.

STEED 05-21-15 02:35 PM

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Vince Cable has said he lost his seat at the general election because of a Conservative campaign of "fear".
The ex-Lib Dem MP said warnings of chaos, "Ed Miliband's socialism" and the SNP frightened voters in England into supporting David Cameron's party.
But he said it would come back to haunt the Tories as it had "unleashed" both English and Scottish nationalism.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32794761

The sooner the better I say. :arrgh!:

Faster people wake up and see the Tories for what they are the sooner we can get rid of them.

BossMark 05-22-15 02:06 AM

So Cameron is set to sell off £23bn worth of taxpayers assets then to the public.

I think I'm missing something here, I'm pretty sure we already own them.

MGR1 05-22-15 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by STEED (Post 2315281)
I know some one who cleans toilets and his biggest gripe is the lousy pay which probably puts a lot of people off, not everyone can do that kind of job that said pay low end workers more and your may get more Brits doing these kinds of jobs.

To an extent that's true, but what is a job like that intrinsically worth? By definition a basic cleaner or maid will be at or near the bottom wrung of the wage ladder, as, rightly or wrongly, it's classified as "unskilled". The same applies to a supermarket worker like myself. The job has requires many skills to accomplish correctly, but it's still classified as "unskilled" as you don't need any qualifications to do it. You can introduce a minimum wage, as has happened, to mitigate the effects of low pay. Unfortunately what then happens is that businesses of all sizes then begin to work the system to minimise their tax and national insurance liabilities by employing part-timers rather than full timers. I've worked in an HR environment, that's what happens. What governments need to be doing is looking at reducing the actual cost of living so those on the bottom wrung can actually survive without having to rely on government hand outs.:hmmm:

Not that will happen as there are too many variables outwith a national government's control.

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And proper real training for school leavers not these silly government massage the figures courses. I will always remember from the radio this school leaver went on a six month pluming course and he completed it went around all the plumbers in his area all turn him down, two said they would take him on if he completed a proper three year course.
Then he received bad advice - more fool him to listening to it. If your going to go for a skilled job like a plumber you need to start both young and as an apprentice. Yes, the apprenticeship pay is rubbish, but you're well rewarded at the end of it. I've seen too many youngsters who have no patience and want instant gratification.:down:

Mike.

Jimbuna 05-22-15 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by MGR1 (Post 2315385)

Then he received bad advice - more fool him to listening to it. If your going to go for a skilled job like a plumber you need to start both young and as an apprentice. Yes, the apprenticeship pay is rubbish, but you're well rewarded at the end of it. I've seen too many youngsters who have no patience and want instant gratification.:down:

Mike.

Agreed....I like many others in my generation went through four year apprenticeships and were duly rewarded for the remainder of their working lives.

In fairness though, there were many more opportunities then than there are now.

BossMark 05-22-15 09:26 AM

Knighthood for ex-minister Eric Pickles

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32844276


What the hell for? eating all the pies and being a fat Tory pig....

STEED 05-22-15 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BossMark (Post 2315437)
Knighthood for ex-minister Eric Pickles

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32844276


What the hell for? eating all the pies and being a fat Tory pig....

Eric Pickles anti-corruption tsar...:har::har::har::har::har::har::har::har:

What a load of...........................................

Please PM if you want to know what I said that can not be posted here.

BossMark 05-24-15 10:39 AM

So, Eric Pickles is to be knighted by the Queen.

I can see it now:

"Arise, Sir Eric Pickles!"

"Yeah, I'm trying... (phew), just give me a minute..."

Jimbuna 05-25-15 06:08 AM

I see Labour have reversed their position on an EU referendum :hmmm:

Perhaps someone woke up and smelled the coffee.

MGR1 05-25-15 08:38 AM

Looks like the SNP might gain another MP if they can get Alistair Carmichael suspended from Parliament over his conduct regarding the infamous leaked memo allegedly stating Sturgeon preferred Cameron as PM. If they can force a bye-election they stand a good chance of winning the Orkney/Shetland seat as Carmichael saw his majority slashed from 10,000 to a mere 817. Even the Convener of Shetland Council said Carmichael had had it. If he goes, then that reduces the Lib-Dems to 7 MPs.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...k-snp-sturgeon

More Scottish Labour infighting:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...itics-32864079

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...itics-32857281

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...itics-32843289

The leadership contest looks like a toss-up between Ken Mcintosh and Kezia "Deputy Dug" Dugdale.

Mike.:hmmm:

STEED 05-25-15 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2316099)
I see Labour have reversed their position on an EU referendum :hmmm:

Perhaps someone woke up and smelled the coffee.

Can't get enough of agreeing with Cameron, they are becoming Tory. :huh:

BossMark 05-25-15 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by STEED (Post 2316185)
Can't get enough of agreeing with Cameron, they are becoming Tory. :huh:

Going have to do something about that, but what god knows :nope:

STEED 05-25-15 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BossMark (Post 2316189)
Going have to do something about that, but what god knows :nope:

They need to stick to their guns for a start instead of handing them to Cameron.

BossMark 05-25-15 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by STEED (Post 2316191)
They need to stick to their guns for a start instead of handing them to Cameron.

Yes that's true, and then hopefully toffboy will start firing blanks.

Jimbuna 05-25-15 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by STEED (Post 2316191)
They need to stick to their guns for a start instead of handing them to Cameron.

That is precisely what cost them the election.


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