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Jimbuna 11-01-16 01:05 PM

Hunt does have a five year plan to recruit from within the UK but only time will tell if that tree will bear fruit.

Oberon 11-03-16 07:04 AM

Right, first off the bat let me get this straight out there so we can move on.


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA


Ok, now that's cleared up.
I must admit I was not expecting the court to rule in that way, and I wouldn't be surprised if the government wins the appeal, but it's interesting to see the Brexiteers upset at the fact that it has been proposed that this decision be given to parliament since they have been campaigning for more Parliamentary Sovereignty. :doh:
Still, with any luck this might well force the government to actually give more details about how it plans to Brexit, especially with things like the Human Rights Act which actually has a no repeal clause in it.

Good to see Boris giving his top notch oratory skills though:

"Brexit means Brexit and we are going to make a Titanic success of it."

https://media.giphy.com/media/af34tVk53Li4E/giphy.gif

Oberon 11-03-16 07:20 AM

Also, Osbournes speech from last nights Spectator awards is definitely worth a read, the guy has a sly sense of humour on the quiet:

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/11...n-year-speech/

Jimbuna 11-03-16 08:20 AM

This show hasn't even started to run yet but no doubt it will gather momentum and the media will have their usual field day.

HunterICX 11-03-16 10:50 AM

^In that case I better get a comfy seat, some snacks and a cold one :D

Jimbuna 11-03-16 11:25 AM

^ The next episode is the governments appeal :03:

Oberon 11-03-16 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2444254)
^ The next episode is the governments appeal :03:

If they have any sense (lol) they'd drop the appeal, put it to parliament along with a vote of confidence, if it passes all good, if it doesn't then call elections and win with the Article 50 mandate.
It would be bloody hilarious though if the government took the appeal to the European court though, as is their right. :har:

Skybird 11-03-16 12:17 PM

Early elections rising over the horizon.

Everybody will be loosing with this ruling. Britain, seing its negotiaton tactics getting compromised and made known to the EU opponent, and the EU for getting a maximum-length negotiation with all the economic costs coming from that lengthy period of uncertainty and unpredictability. Major paymaster for these additional costs: Germany, once again. No other European or Western nation gets affected by Brexit - and the negotations of it - as much, as Germany.

We love you, British High Court. Greetings from Germany, with love. Please book your next holiday somewhwere else, just not in Germany. There are less costly tourists to be had.

Oberon 11-03-16 01:26 PM

Yup, honestly though the whole Brexit thing was a bit of a pipe-dream, you can't just flip a switch and eject, particularly not when the country has spent the last thirty-forty years integrating its industry and economic system to the EU. So this thing is going to take a while, and the fact that the vote was so narrow in its margin means that there is going to be considerable resistance to it, and the fact that the main pro-Brexit group, UKIP is currently undergoing a pretty big collapse that will likely mean that either Farage will become leader (again) or the party will go bankrupt. So that just leaves the Tories and they're not all completely convinced about Brexit, and Labour...well...it's pretty hard to understand Labour at the moment, notionally they should be against Brexit, but Corbyn is pretty anti-EU, however at the same time he's likely to prefer a soft-Brexit. Then there's the SNP who are pretty anti-Brexit. However the Tories have a majority so if the whips do their job and quash the pro-EU section of the Tory party then they could get it through parliament easily enough. :hmmm:

Moonlight 11-03-16 02:48 PM

^That's how I see it as well, those ministers will be very wary of putting article 50 to the electorate as they have too much to lose.
They don't know how many Brexiteers they've got in their constituency so most of them will be fearful of there seats, and if there's one thing a minister likes its a comfy seat for another 5 years.

STEED 11-03-16 05:37 PM

What a right mess.

Oberon 11-03-16 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STEED (Post 2444331)
What a right mess.

It's good entertainment this whole spinning around the u-bend. :yeah:

Jimbuna 11-04-16 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STEED (Post 2444331)
What a right mess.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2444343)
It's good entertainment this whole spinning around the u-bend. :yeah:

Yes, I think we are all in for a long seasons entertainment :yep:

Just keeps your hands off my pension :timeout:

STEED 11-04-16 07:03 AM

Quote:

Pro-Brexit Conservative Stephen Phillips has resigned as an MP with immediate effect over "irreconcilable policy differences" with the Government.
http://news.sky.com/story/conservati...signs-10644242

As BossMark would say good.




Meanwhile at UKIP another one drops out.

Quote:

Peter Whittle has become the latest candidate to pull out of the UKIP leadership contest.
http://news.sky.com/story/peter-whit...ntest-10644059

Oberon 11-04-16 07:46 AM

It'll be Farage, just you wait and see, he'll be back. :har:

Jimbuna 11-04-16 08:11 AM

I suspect you may well be right :)

Oberon 11-04-16 10:46 AM

UKIP isn't a party, it's a cult of personality. :haha:

MGR1 11-05-16 04:18 AM

Not sure about the personality part, but people do say the same thing about the SNP.

Mind you, both UKIP and the SNP are nationalist parties.....

In the meantime: "Former Scottish government minister Alex Neil voted for Brexit" LINK.

Shock. Horror. An SNP parliamentarian with his own will. Sturgeon is not pleased!

Mike.:03:

Jimbuna 11-05-16 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MGR1 (Post 2444565)

In the meantime: "Former Scottish government minister Alex Neil voted for Brexit" LINK.

Shock. Horror. An SNP parliamentarian with his own will. Sturgeon is not pleased!

Mike.:03:

http://i.imgur.com/djfZADe.jpg

MGR1 11-05-16 10:27 AM

Bleh!:Kaleun_Sick:
Mel Gibson has a lot to answer for!

I'm not sure which was the most drivel, "Braveheart" or Liam Neeson in "Rob Roy".....

Anyway, even more shock and horror if your an SNP person - the Tories have won two council by-elections in Wee Eck's own back yard: LINK.

Aberdeenshire - Banff and District

Conservatives 1,170 (44.0 per cent, +20.9 on 2012) SNP 962 (36.2 per cent, -19.2) Lib Dems 526 (19.8 per cent, +8.7)

Conservatives gain from the SNP.

Aberdeenshire - Inverurie and District

Conservatives 1,302 (38.8 per cent, +21.4 on 2012) SNP 1,164 (34.6 per cent, -2.5) Lib Dems 755 (22.5 per cent, +5.1) Labour 139 (4.1 per cent, -9.1)

Conservatives gain from the Lib Dems.

As usual for council elections the turn out wasn't brilliant.

Ironically, with the SNP swinging to the left politically to chase after the Glasgow vote, they've begun to alienate their more conservative North-East support. More than a few people in the rural areas up here wouldn't touch Labour with a barge pole due to the "Weegie Mafia" taint that effects them. The Lib Dems aren't strong enough either, so that leaves the Tories. Of course, the SNP mucking up the EU subsidy payments to farmers in Scotland and their pro-EU stance undermining their position in the fishing communities has to be factored in.

There isn't likely to be an earthquake anytime soon, although there are indications that the proposed new Westminster constituency bounderies in Scotland may benefit the Tories to a small extent.:hmmm:

Mike.


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