There is two type of our own Western people when it comes to Islam and the debate

1. Those who say every Muslim(100 %) Is radical, there is no such thing as a moderate Muslim

2. Those who say Every Muslim is a loving person and Islam is the religion of peace and if there should be some radical Muslim, it is a production of the imagination of the people on the right wing or they are a product of the Western politics in those areas(Middle east, North Africa)

Who is suffering from this ongoing debate ?? those moderate Muslim.

Markus

Well there are three types.

3. Those who knows there are radical in every politic, religious a.s.o and they has be to taken care of.

Was little to fast.

And that most of them are like you and me, moderate in their belief and the way they behave.
Markus

It doesnt matter if you're muslim or one of santas elves. People have a tendancy to gather according to their faiths, laws, ideas, race, history, traditions, ancestory, etc etc. Why do you think such a small tract of land like Europe even after hundreds of centuries still has so many tiny nations within each with their own language?

Forcing open borders, multi-culturalism, tolerance, cats and dogs to sing kumbiya all day long at this level of immigration runs contrary to human nature and history. When immigrants have a majority at any level they no longer have a need to assimilate. It is you who will need to assimilate.

Just like this white trash gringo had too when he lived in Miami. :O: It was easy though because those Columbian girls were hot hot hot.

That's because you're changing the facts so it'll fit that bigoted narrow mind with the storage capacity of a 8 inch floppy disk.

The only one playing a game is you it's the age old game of ''You're all wrong, I'm Right. I know it all, you know nothing'' Yet all you had to show for where questionable arguments, bigoted articles that fits your mindset and when questioned, shown wrong or not entirely true by a couple of others you simply swiped it as not worth your time.

Tchocky? Sorry the joke is on you.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/nogozones.asp

And for a bit fun when it comes to asking the ones claiming that there are sharia no go zones.

http://www.theatlantic.com/internati...mments/384656/

There I was, London, summer of 2014, East End.
Whitechapel is now a muslim no go zone. People in hijabs, robes and those funny little hats patrol the streets and enforce sharia. No police in sight.
I make a mistake and go into a pub run by native English people full of native English people. After 2 pints of lager I step outside and a sharia patrol is waiting for me. They knock me to the ground, tell me that Allah forbids drinking alcohol and the cut my head off....

Nah, I was surounded by muslims and one of them opened a door for me and another tried to sell me not so fresh produce. Playing tourist is a lot more fun when your brain si not completely filled with dribble, lies and paranoid inventions of fear mongerers trying to score cheap points among the naive masses.

70 years ago, by far not every German citizen had strangled at least one Jew by his own hands. Most did not. Many even were kind, polite. Even hid Jews and helped them to escape.

Nevertheless German Nazism was a big problem for the world, while Hitler still remained to be Hitler, the hate speeches of Goebbles remained to be the hate speeches of Goebbels, and the content of the book Mein Kampf remained to be the content of the book Mein Kampf. And who would argue that they did not change the world for the worse? Or was it all just a bad misunderstanding, is it all just a conspiracy to blame all guilt on the humanitarian, tolerant, peace-loving Nazis while the crimes of the dicatorship and horrors of the camps were not basing on the ideology of the Nazis, but the Nazissis who abused and hijacked good Nazism and gave it a bad reputation, undeserved? I mean, the word Nationalsozialismus includes the word "sozial"- how could that be of any evil, eh? Or are you no socially feeling person, mapuc?

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Some things are not possible to imagine, mapuc. There is no such thing like a humanitarian Stalinism. Or a liberal Nazism. A racism that propagates ewquality and multiculturalism. Because Stalinism is Stalinism, Nazism is Nazism, and racism is racism. There are no moderate, reformed, "humanitarianised" formats of these imaginable. It just makes no sense.

Muhammad was a warmonger, a conquerer, a desert bandit and predator, a warlord and massmurderer. What kind of peaceful ideology would anybody expect from such a sick person with such a worrysome biography...???

Or would we consider to award Stalin the peace Nobel award nowadays...???

Why not?
We live in a world where a U.S. President received one.
The same one who didn't close Guantanamo, the same one who approved the use of CIA black sites on foreign soil to detain and torture people - sorry, sorry, "sand ******s" who are all super guilty no doubt(!) - and who conducted/signed/approved/ordered a ton of illegal drone strikes in countries the US isn't at war with and who do not appreciate these acts of war, killing more civilians (but at least no US civilians, so who cares?) than legit and confirmed targets.

So by thinking of that... what value does this price still have these days?
Give it to Stalin, Hitler, Mao, ... all of them - it just blends in perfectly with the reality of mankind.

Sorry for OT.

Talk about guilt by association, Skybirds anti-Muslim opinions seem to somehow translate into an obscenely worded rant against the US. :hmmm:

Comparing Obama to Stalin really pushes it too far, in all regards. And I am really no fan of Obama.

The Nobel Peace Prize is a derailed, worthless and completely hijacked thing that has no connection to the founder's intent, and instead of being an award for achievements by Nobel's criteria now is a tool to actively manipulate events and figures towards opportunistically wanted outcomes of any kind. Only precondition that must be fulfilled is that the cause has a sufficiently noisy lobby propagating it. And there are names on the list of winners with whom I would not wish to be mentioned in one breath or sentence.

One could as well give the Oscar for the best movie of the year to a chef and for a meal he has not even prepared, hoping that the award will make him to cook it in the way one wants him to. Vegan, Bio and ecologically aware, of course.

@ Skybird

I thought you knew that only on the outside every German was a Nazist

On the inside, only a few, (don't know how many percent it was), was 100 % nazist. The rest didn't dare to speak against Hitler and his party, some of them did. Many of them was caught and sentence to death for this.

Markus

Are you sure you really understood what I said, mapuc? I am no sure of that at all. ;)

(Please read the pictures carefully before posting.)

Slovene parliament passed the law to give the army temporary policing powers to augment the police at the border.

This does not mean that tanks will block the border and SS patrols will overrun my village.
It means that the army is going to take in some of the guard and administration duties at the border crossing and bring in the much needed logistic in. The police don't have trucks, buses and portable kitchens, the army does.

You should demand Merkel and that do gooder in the U.K. to supplement the cost of border security and sheltering refugees. :D.

Since we're Schengen frontier I believe we already do get ''guard funds'' from Brussels.


120 refugees managed to reach Jesenice, my birthplace not far from where I live and with a sizeable muslim Bosnian population.
The Slovene inhabitants thought the world was coming to an end, the Bosnians remarked that if 3 more groups of 120 of them arrive, it will be enough to have a small Bosnian wedding