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Wise 04-10-17 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kendras (Post 2478107)
I wish you good luck. Could you remind us what you have done so far, and what still has to be done ?

Thanks.
Without screens. Screens are in earlier posts.
Earlier it has been made:
Turm VIIA-Vorkrieg (early VIIB-type)
Turm VIIA-1938 (without wave-deflector, early VIIB-type)
Turm VIIA-1939 (with wave-deflector, early VIIB-type)
Turm VIIB-1940 (with round wintergarten)
Turm VIIB-1942 (U-84 analog, with the additional platform behind a tower)
Turm VIIC (type 1, standard)
Turm VIIC (type 1, U-96 analog)
Turm VIIC (type 1, 'FuMO-29')
Turm VIIC (type 2)
Hull of the boat (type VII).
Deck of the hull (type VII, early, continuous with waterholes)
Deck of the hull (type VII, late 1942-43, wooden flooring)
Turm VIIC (type 3) - readiness about 75%...
And here has appeared He.. Man-machine..
I have interrupted my work with towers, to help him..
With my insignificant help he has recreated 3D models of majority of radars and detectors of radar-radiate, including the VHF-antenna and a direction finder (early and late), which were widely used in the years of war on the German U-boats and which Ubisoft hasn't realized in a game..
With my insignificant help he has recreated 3D-models of periscopes, according to their actual sizes and appearance. With vibration-dampener..
Rack of a fighting periscope (early and late)..
Simply UZO and UZO with protect 'anti-rain'..
Binocular..
BBC..
Hydrophone KDB..
All models have real appearance. It is easy to be convinced of it, having looked at screens.
Practically all models have the actual sizes, except for those which can't be made real because of nuances of a game which it is impossible to remake or ‘deceive’.
Sphere has collected huge amount of information: rare photos, detailed descriptions of the principle of work, drawings, dates of commissioning, etc.
After testing of his work on my towers, I have understood that towers need considerable reconstruction. Otherwise, towers against the background of his magnificence will look extreme doubtfully..
On today reconstruction was undergone:
Turm VIIA-Vorkrieg (early VIIB-type)
Turm VIIA-1938 (without wave-deflector, early VIIB-type)
Turm VIIA-1939 (with wave-deflector, early VIIB-type)
At the first stage of reconstruction the large volume of work has been made. I expect to carry out the second stage much quicker, using a method of mutual substitution of the objects improved at the first stage.
Second stage of reconstruction:
Turm VIIB-1940 (with round wintergarten)
Turm VIIB-1942 (U-84 analog, with the additional platform behind a tower)
Turm VIIC (type 1, standard)
Turm VIIC (type 1, U-96 analog)
Turm VIIC (type 1, 'FuMO-29')
Turm VIIC (type 2)
Stage 3: improvement, addition and end of Turm VIIC (type 3) with necessary changes (according to the period of war of 1943-45) in hull of boat(deck, groove of snorkel, etc.).
Creation of Turm VIIC (type 4).
Stage 4: creation of the boat (hull + tower) VIIC/41.

The second (and also, the third and fourth) the stage of reconstruction is inseparably linked with work of Sphere with which it is occupied now: creation of realistic guns (see screens above), creation of realistic animation of guns, improvement of appearance of the crew member (at the model and textural level), creation of new animation of artillery calculations for new guns.
Besides, Sphere is occupied with creation of animation of the radar equipment and further introduction of all listed work in overall mod - VII, including towers which have passed (or will pass in the future) reconstruction.
Later (if Sphere allows), I will show separate screens of the working moments on which the drawn-up plans are displayed. Or, maybe, he himself..
Perhaps, I have forgotten to mention something. I hope, Andrey will come and will eliminate a lack.
Всем удачи!

Fubar2Niner 04-10-17 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wise (Post 2478148)
Thanks.
Without screens. Screens are in earlier posts.
Earlier it has been made:
Turm VIIA-Vorkrieg (early VIIB-type)
Turm VIIA-1938 (without wave-deflector, early VIIB-type)
Turm VIIA-1939 (with wave-deflector, early VIIB-type)
Turm VIIB-1940 (with round wintergarten)
Turm VIIB-1942 (U-84 analog, with the additional platform behind a tower)
Turm VIIC (type 1, standard)
Turm VIIC (type 1, U-96 analog)
Turm VIIC (type 1, 'FuMO-29')
Turm VIIC (type 2)
Hull of the boat (type VII).
Deck of the hull (type VII, early, continuous with waterholes)
Deck of the hull (type VII, late 1942-43, wooden flooring)
Turm VIIC (type 3) - readiness about 75%...
And here has appeared He.. Man-machine..
I have interrupted my work with towers, to help him..
With my insignificant help he has recreated 3D models of majority of radars and detectors of radar-radiate, including the VHF-antenna and a direction finder (early and late), which were widely used in the years of war on the German U-boats and which Ubisoft hasn't realized in a game..
With my insignificant help he has recreated 3D-models of periscopes, according to their actual sizes and appearance. With vibration-dampener..
Rack of a fighting periscope (early and late)..
Simply UZO and UZO with protect 'anti-rain'..
Binocular..
BBC..
Hydrophone KDB..
All models have real appearance. It is easy to be convinced of it, having looked at screens.
Practically all models have the actual sizes, except for those which can't be made real because of nuances of a game which it is impossible to remake or ‘deceive’.
Sphere has collected huge amount of information: rare photos, detailed descriptions of the principle of work, drawings, dates of commissioning, etc.
After testing of his work on my towers, I have understood that towers need considerable reconstruction. Otherwise, towers against the background of his magnificence will look extreme doubtfully..
On today reconstruction was undergone:
Turm VIIA-Vorkrieg (early VIIB-type)
Turm VIIA-1938 (without wave-deflector, early VIIB-type)
Turm VIIA-1939 (with wave-deflector, early VIIB-type)
At the first stage of reconstruction the large volume of work has been made. I expect to carry out the second stage much quicker, using a method of mutual substitution of the objects improved at the first stage.
Second stage of reconstruction:
Turm VIIB-1940 (with round wintergarten)
Turm VIIB-1942 (U-84 analog, with the additional platform behind a tower)
Turm VIIC (type 1, standard)
Turm VIIC (type 1, U-96 analog)
Turm VIIC (type 1, 'FuMO-29')
Turm VIIC (type 2)
Stage 3: improvement, addition and end of Turm VIIC (type 3) with necessary changes (according to the period of war of 1943-45) in hull of boat(deck, groove of snorkel, etc.).
Creation of Turm VIIC (type 4).
Stage 4: creation of the boat (hull + tower) VIIC/41.

The second (and also, the third and fourth) the stage of reconstruction is inseparably linked with work of Sphere with which it is occupied now: creation of realistic guns (see screens above), creation of realistic animation of guns, improvement of appearance of the crew member (at the model and textural level), creation of new animation of artillery calculations for new guns.
Besides, Sphere is occupied with creation of animation of the radar equipment and further introduction of all listed work in overall mod - VII, including towers which have passed (or will pass in the future) reconstruction.
Later (if Sphere allows), I will show separate screens of the working moments on which the drawn-up plans are displayed. Or, maybe, he himself..
Perhaps, I have forgotten to mention something. I hope, Andrey will come and will eliminate a lack.
Всем удачи!

Stunning work so far my friends, and yes Andrey silence is worrying. I hope he is ok :yep:

Best regards.

Fubar2Niner

Kendras 04-10-17 05:30 PM

Thank you very much for the explanations ! :up:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wise (Post 2478148)
After testing of his work on my towers, I have understood that towers need considerable reconstruction.

What kind of reconstruction ? :hmm2:

Wise 04-10-17 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kendras (Post 2478170)
What kind of reconstruction ? :hmm2:

From the word "remake", "improve", smooth angles, "ennoble", etc..
At the same time, improve UVW-grids, TGA-diffuse and render of Ambient Occlusion.

Kendras 04-10-17 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wise (Post 2478176)
From the word "remake", "improve", smooth angles, "ennoble", etc..
At the same time, improve UVW-grids, TGA-diffuse and render of Ambient Occlusion.

OK, just eye candy then, no error on size or shape ?

Wise 04-10-17 11:37 PM

All main dimensions are strong withheld according to prototypes. Some secondary sizes can have the minimum divergences which in a game can't be caught. These sizes have no slightest effect on the general visual perception, or, about any concrete size wasn't succeeded to find exact data. For these reasons of special attention to them it wasn't given. Other words, approximately, intuitively.
Similarly with forms. Actually, about correct (or wrong) forms you can judge by real photos.

qazxsw 04-11-17 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wise (Post 2478203)
All main dimensions are strong withheld according to prototypes. Some secondary sizes can have the minimum divergences which in a game can't be caught. These sizes have no slightest effect on the general visual perception, or, about any concrete size wasn't succeeded to find exact data. For these reasons of special attention to them it wasn't given. Other words, approximately, intuitively.
Similarly with forms. Actually, about correct (or wrong) forms you can judge by real photos.

Excuse me for interrupting you, my friend.This MOD is so beautiful! I want to know whether to finish the work? I want to download this MOD, But I can't find the link.If completed, can you give me a new download link?I have in love with this MOD!
last You are a great man :up:

Wise 04-11-17 11:30 PM

Mod it isn't finished. There are no references.
Outdated and partial version of mod can be taken here:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=221986

qazxsw 04-12-17 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wise (Post 2478353)
Mod it isn't finished. There are no references.
Outdated and partial version of mod can be taken here:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=221986

Thank you friends, I will be waiting for your release I know you've paid a lot of time and energy for this MOD Your spirit deserves praise Wish you happy my friend By the way are you in the KSD TEAM?

Wise 04-12-17 01:00 PM

No. KSD TEAM, just our friends.
Thanks for kind words.

qazxsw 04-12-17 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wise (Post 2478559)
No. KSD TEAM, just our friends.
Thanks for kind words.

Ok, I know. Thank you

Kendras 04-23-17 06:14 PM

Tribute to your beautiful work. Waiting for the next release ! :up:

http://i.imgur.com/k4xV6TD.png

:salute:

Wise 04-26-17 06:00 PM

Thanks.
Pay attention to appearance of a cable of antennas. It is awful. It is my former laziness and inexperience.
I have no opportunity as much as possible to detail a cable at the polygonal level. A game will go crazy. But I can improve a cable on a textural basis.
Change of textures and UVW of cable, is one of nuances of reconstruction..Long and tedious process.

http://s20.postimg.org/cj8izy7v1/image.jpg
http://s20.postimg.org/j8f2fyt71/image.jpg
http://s20.postimg.org/s0w13nebx/image.jpg
http://s20.postimg.org/5dgrxhyrx/image.jpg

Perhaps, the cable doesn't cost such tortures because, isn't evident. But it is necessary to do. That to him it wasn't a shame beside with guns by Sphere .))

álvaro 04-26-17 06:33 PM

magnificent !!, incredible !! Thanks to show us your advances....

:Kaleun_Salute::Kaleun_Thumbs_Up::Kaleun_Applaud:: Kaleun_Cheers:

makman94 04-30-17 12:46 PM

@Wise...the cables are allready so nice and you are improving them more ?
i can't wait to see them finished mate :Kaleun_Applaud:
every time you (Kovall and Sphere) are surprising me and making me say that these guys really REALLY rocking the sh3 !

ps: i saw somewhere in a pic (can't remember now ,probably it was at ksd forum) that you added also a projector on the bridge. so nice :Kaleun_Wink:


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