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krashkart 05-04-11 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Torplexed (Post 1656983)
Right after the Navy Seals raid Julian Assange's hotel room. :D


Imagine that story leaked through Wikileaks. :D

Growler 05-04-11 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Torplexed (Post 1656958)
My cynical theory at this point is that Obama will keep to his high road of not releasing the photos, and yet they'll be somehow leaked anyway. He has moral superiority cake and eats it too.

Get cracking. The United States is depending on you.:D

Ducimus 05-04-11 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike (Post 1656996)
Its also used IRL. Tango means "Target". The Brits at one time used the term "X-Ray" but switched to "Tango" at some point.

I figured Tango meant target. Tango is part of the phonetic alphabet after all. I didn't want to assume it was term used in the real world because i saw it used in a video game. A better assumption was the game designers made it up because it "sounds military".

tater 05-04-11 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by razark (Post 1656933)
Two reactions:
A. Sometimes my internet cuts out, even when I'm not transmitting a radio signal across the world.
B. Maybe they're trying to avoid people asking for the video?

I have no issue with them in a LOS condition, that's just life. My issue is with how the administration painted the picture. They show a pic of the situation room, and make it look like they were watching, then everyone and his uncle makes statements about what went down (human shield, firefight, armed, etc, ad nauseum), THEN they all backpedal because all the stuff they were talking about... they didn't actually see.

So I was not complaining about the loss of signal, just the fact that they didn't tell everyone this up front.

Had they said, "we missed the actual raid live due to signal issues from within the compound, so anything we say might later be corrected by the after-action report" then all this backpedaling would look fine. As it is, they speak with certainty, then change the story with certainty.

Looks sloppy.

Madox58 05-04-11 09:12 PM

Time Warner Cable is not all it's cracked up to be.
:haha:

Armistead 05-04-11 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus (Post 1656936)
They should have made an airtight, carefully crafted statement after any after action reports, the first time around. Now their (our) integrity is compromised by the backpeddeling and correcting. So now, nobody will believe a damn thing they say.

This could all be smoke and mirrors. Back and forth to hide the truth.
This is a common government game. Spread a few news rumors and let them confuse everything.

The real truth.. In Yemen, KSM and friends are probably saying.

"Least Osama is dead, he can say nothing."

But under some mountain some CIA interrogator is saying.

"Up the voltage on the left testicle and bring in the cloned pig, he's starting to talk."


Remember, the misinformation usually isn't intended for just us...How do you think they've kept those aliens hid in area 51 all these years.....

razark 05-04-11 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by tater (Post 1657011)
I have no issue with them in a LOS condition, that's just life. My issue is with how the administration painted the picture...

Looks sloppy.

Ah. I misinterpreted what you were saying.

I agree that this has been handled very badly. The administration should have put out the statement Sunday night, given a few firm details, and said "We'll give you more details later." They should have had three or four statements prepared to cover a variety of outcomes, given the appropriate one Sunday, and then given the details once they had a firm picture of what happened, and what was releasable.

They would have come off looking a lot better. They would have looked like they knew what was going on, and went in with a plan. As it is, they really seem like they fumbled around and got lucky.

The end result is the same, Osama is dead. The PR could use some work, though.

geetrue 05-04-11 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1656747)
http://socyberty.com/issues/white-ho...ama-bin-laden/

I don't know how true any of this is but if so it's downright scary:

I wonder too about how true this is too.

All of the news stations reported that Obama gave the order for the attack plan to proceed on Friday before he left with his family to see the tornado disaster in Alabama on his way to the see the shuttle launch.

I remember Obama's reluctance to take out the pirates and the many delayed comments of other problems in the world, but not this one.

He wanted OBL bad plus he had instructed everyone to go after him as soon as he became president.

Rambo Obama was the winner :yep:

Freiwillige 05-04-11 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by geetrue (Post 1657042)
I wonder too about how true this is too.

All of the news stations reported that Obama gave the order for the attack plan to proceed on Friday before he left with his family to see the tornado disaster in Alabama on his way to the see the shuttle launch.

I remember Obama's reluctance to take out the pirates and the many delayed comments of other problems in the world, but not this one.

He wanted OBL bad plus he had instructed everyone to go after him as soon as he became president.

Rambo Obama was the winner :yep:

Or that's the after story spin? Truth is we will never know.

krashkart 05-04-11 10:59 PM

The Dalai Lama weighs in:

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/...ustified?sc=tw

AdeptCharge 05-04-11 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus (Post 1657004)
I figured Tango meant target. Tango is part of the phonetic alphabet after all. I didn't want to assume it was term used in the real world

A-Hem, No you are incorrect, you did assume and do not specify clearly, if I may, Tango Is a (word) used within in the phonetic alphabet, to wit - a word with various terms ie form of dance, can be used in verbal altercation etc

TorpX 05-05-11 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Freiwillige (Post 1657052)
Or that's the after story spin? Truth is we will never know.

I think we will have a good idea when the leaks start. There will be quite a few people who have relevent facts about this. It will be hard to shut everyone up. If we find out there was good intel that UBL was there, well before the raid, this will show Obama dithered. There would be no good reason for delay, and a high risk he would move to another location, and the oportunity lost. It's not like it would take the SEALs weeks to figure out how to assault a building.

Onkel Neal 05-05-11 01:08 AM

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Like clockwork, the SEALs "stacked" at the main house's doors prepared to enter the building to find their ultimate target. But they had miscalculated the strength of the building's reinforced doors, costing them precious time, presenting the enemy hiding inside with an opportunity. Grenades flew through the house's windows, peppering much of the strike team with shrapnel.
http://www.slate.com/id/2293022/

This is why I tip my hat to a President I hope has only 19 months left in office.

joegrundman 05-05-11 01:45 AM

i see you americans have stopped firing your AK47's into the air in celebration and have got back to jabbing your fingers in each other's faces.

krashkart 05-05-11 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by joegrundman (Post 1657102)
i see you americans have stopped firing your AK47's into the air in celebration and have got back to jabbing your fingers in each other's faces.


Troll! :O:


What's your favorite beer? Got a case of Miller Light here with your name on it.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/pict...pictureid=2561


No offense intended, Joe. :salute:


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