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Dimitrius07 06-02-10 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by pipin (Post 1409725)
...Or your "dangerous armed terrorists" aboard were nothing more that supid "hooligans"... this if you like continuing with stupid analogies... something that will bring us nowere...

Well you just sad, that you saw worst cases done by football fans that this one, so i guess by judging to your twisted (again) reply we can see who is who here. You want to know "something" that will bring us nowhere? That "something" is who you support so much. Have a nice life :salute:.

Skybird 06-02-10 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 1409471)
The blockade is needed, otherwise Syria and Iran would ship god knows what into Gaza,

Why do you conclude that Iran would deliver hightech missiles to Gaza just because they deliver hightech missiles to the Hezbollah in Lebanon? Hezbollah and Hamas have nothing to do with each other, and there cannot be peace if one always assumed just the worst of intentions in the other! :88)

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and since Israels navy isn't as big as the US navy, they can't stop and search every nook of every single ship that heads for Gaza.
Bah, there is this great and fabulous EU navy mission patrolling offcoast of Lebanon. Let them handle Gaza as well. They haven't found any thing serious in Lebanon, so in Gaza they will not find anything as well. Et voilá - peace! The good things come all by themselves to those that just sit and wait! :D

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There is a good quote from an Israeli general Moshe Dayan:

"Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother."
Goodness gracious - how uncivilised! :D

:haha:

MH 06-02-10 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 1409852)
Why do you conclude that Iran would deliver hightech missiles to Gaza just because they deliver hightech missiles to the Hezbollah in Lebanon? Hezbollah and Hamas have nothing to do with each other, and there cannot be peace if one always assumed just the worst of intentions in the other! :88)
:haha:

:cry:

What a pure hearted speculation...you must be really nice person but naive man.

Tribesman 06-02-10 04:22 PM

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There is really no point in analyzing this so much.
that is only true if you view events with a pre-deternined position regardless of the facts, which quite frankly is a rather pointless view to have as it can only be described as ignorance.

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The bottom line is that Israeli commandos were attacked with brutal premeditated deadly force.
which is pretty irrelevant really.

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The only option that they had to avoid getting lynched was to use deadly force as a response and thats about it.
there are dozens if not hundreds of options, for you to be unable to see anything suggests you are entering a topic with an entirely closed mind.

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All the argument if stun grenade was thrown and what brand it was or what kind of fuel was used in fire bomb and where it fell is pointless bullocks because i'm sure most of you if anyone wasn't even in remotely similar situation.
The typical epic fail from someone who has a view on a subject but actually doesn't really have a real view as it was already determined regardless of the issue.

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Well you just sad, that you saw worst cases done by football fans that this one, so i guess by judging to your twisted (again) reply we can see who is who here.
Well that goes without saying, have you led such a sheltered life that you havn't seen soccer hooligans when they kick off?
They have a tendancy to be a lot more violent and persistant than those few idiots on the boat.

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What a pure hearted speculation...you must be really nice person but naive man.
Actually it is you showing your naivity if you don't understand the long running conflict between the Muslim sects.
One group is mainly backed by nice sunni people like saudi, the other is mainly backed by nice ****es like Iran.

Dimitrius07 06-02-10 04:30 PM

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Goodness gracious - how uncivilised!
Deeds speaks louder than words :woot:

MH 06-02-10 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1409879)
that is only true if you view events with a pre-deternined position .....

Sure im...its you who take long to catch up but take your time.



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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1409879)

there are dozens if not hundreds of options....

We are talking about what already happened and how it happened.
As for the future don't worry the lessoms here are bening learnd.


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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1409879)
The typical epic fail from someone who has a view on a subject but actually doesn't really have a real view as it was already determined regardless of the issue.

Whatever....

Tribesman 06-02-10 05:01 PM

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its you who take long to catch up but take your time.
The only way to catch up with someone who has such a closed mind as yours is to go backwards.

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We are talking about what already happened and how it happened.
No you are not, you are talking about what you feel you need to have happened for it to fit your pre determined view.

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Whatever....
:har::har::har::har::har:
thats a case of speak to the hand as the brain ain't working, you surpass yourself

MH 06-02-10 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1409914)
The only way to catch up with someone who has such a closed mind as yours is to go backwards.


No you are not, you are talking about what you feel you need to have happened for it to fit your pre determined view.


:har::har::har::har::har:
thats a case of speak to the hand as the brain ain't working, you surpass yourself

Ok i get it you are just a little kid.
Lets move on.

Zachstar 06-02-10 05:10 PM

This thread is still going? I think its been proven enough Israel has egg on its face Egypt opened its border and the blockade of Gaza is useless and will be disbanded soon enough.

Game set match Israel lost they played right into the hands of their enemies and now Gaza is opened through Egypt of which they have no control over.

Its over lets hope next time they don't act so stupidly.

Platapus 06-02-10 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 1409852)
Why do you conclude that Iran would deliver hightech missiles to Gaza just because they deliver hightech missiles to the Hezbollah in Lebanon? Hezbollah and Hamas have nothing to do with each other, and there cannot be peace if one always assumed just the worst of intentions in the other! :88)


:haha:

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Originally Posted by MH (Post 1409866)
:cry:

What a pure hearted speculation...you must be really nice person but naive man.

Why do you say that?

If anyone is going to supply Hamas with weapons it would be Saudi Arabia as they are the biggest supporters of Hamas.

pipin 06-02-10 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dimitrius07 (Post 1409838)
Well you just sad, that you saw worst cases done by football fans that this one, so i guess by judging to your twisted (again) reply we can see who is who here. You want to know "something" that will bring us nowhere? That "something" is who you support so much. Have a nice life :salute:.

I'm not supporting anyone, not you nor your enemies. I was just expressing my opinions on these facts. You do not like them? fine.

Have a nice life too.

Bilge_Rat 06-02-10 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1409914)

:har::har::har::har::har:
thats a case of speak to the hand as the brain ain't working, you surpass yourself

guys, we have managed to have a civil discussion for 28 pages, let's not ruin it now.

It is possible to discuss these issues and have honest disagreements without resorting to personal attacks.

this applies to everyone. I will even be nice to OTH. :DL

Tribesman 06-02-10 05:33 PM

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Ok i get it you are just a little kid.
Lets move on.
You are unable to move on as you are stuck at a fixed point, thats the whole point and its why you really have no point.

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Why do you say that?
I think he said it because its easy to say things like that when you have a fixed view that is unrelated and unadapted to any real facts on the issues.


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Game set match Israel lost they played right into the hands of their enemies and now Gaza is opened through Egypt of which they have no control over.
Maybe its a really clever ploy by the Israelis, with a flow of goods through the rafah crossing they will be diminishing the revenue hamas gets from all the tunnels under the fence.

MH 06-02-10 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1409948)
You are unable to move on as you are stuck at a fixed point, thats the whole point and its why you really have no point.


I think he said it because its easy to say things like that when you have a fixed view that is unrelated and unadapted to any real facts on the issues.



Maybe its a really clever ploy by the Israelis, with a flow of goods through the rafah crossing they will be diminishing the revenue hamas gets from all the tunnels under the fence.


Very creative
Bravo.

Zachstar 06-02-10 06:25 PM

You are saying Israel Wanted Egypt to open the border? An interesting theory but was it worth the cost of international standing?


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