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Sandman_28054 02-07-10 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Von Taticus (Post 1246786)
As it seems that a permanment online connection is required to play SH5 will it affect your decision to buy (sorry lease)?

I wish I seen this earlier, I just ordered mine last week.

Perhaps when it arrives, I'll just stick on the shelf with all my C&C Generals games as well.

This just sucks.

Undefined 02-07-10 09:17 AM

No Silent Hunter V for me then!

I am in a band and i spend most of my day out in my studio. In there we have sloppy Wifi connection wich is slow and always disconnects. I can manage to surf in the internet but i am not going to be able to play SHV there.

Thanks UBI! I really hope now that the game sucks so that i will not miss alot.

mikeydredd 02-07-10 10:32 AM

I will not buy this
 
I have just been on the Ubisoft SHV forums and have read about the need for a permanent internet connection needed to play!!!. Even in single player mode!!!!! And your save games aren't yours - they keep them!!!!! And you can't re-sell the game at any time because it would be useless to any body else!!!!!

Quite simple really. Pirates will pirate - it's what they do.

Honest customers will buy - it's what they do.

If you confuse one for the other you then have this kind of chaos.

I will NOT buy SHV as long as it needs a permanent online connection. If they get rid of this I will buy it on the day of release.

If we all stick to our guns they will have to re-think. It is up to us people.


Have a nice day :arrgh!:

tater 02-07-10 10:35 AM

Sad that the skipper likely doesn't have to concern himself with enemy ships zig-zagging, or broaching the boat, but WILL have to concern himself with the ubi server status.

mikeydredd 02-07-10 12:40 PM

The Clincher
 
Well that has clinched it for me.

My connection has just gone down TWICE trying to get back on this forum. And Ubisoft expect me to shackle myself to this abortion. They really are taking the piss.

Ubisoft you can stick this where the sun very obviously don't shine.

I'm off to the valhalla of GWX.

So long suckers.

Dredd out :arrgh!:

Garion 02-07-10 12:52 PM

I do feel for the devs as it's the publisher that decides what type of DRM (if any) is used in a product. But it's the Publishers Draconian DRM thats stopping me buying this on release nothing else. I can even live, grudgingly with the 1943 termination and the single U-Boat type.

Even if SH5 was the bees knees in subsims with Manual targeting, working heads (that really flush), Wolfpacks and accurate to the nth degree I still would not buy it with it's present DRM.

I refuse to pay for a game that I cannot use when I want too, that is dependant on a remote security system that may or may not deem me worthy of playing and that I have to stay connected to teh internets during play.

So I will vote with my wallet and wait to see if the DRM is removed in future and in truth will probably wait a few years on the Gold Edition.

So if the devs are going without food etc, blame Ubisoft. I dont think its fair to guilt trip a potential customer into buying a product with this type of DRM just to keep this particular franchise alive. It sends the wrong message to Ubisoft who will see the sales as an acceptance of their DRM policy and is to me at least a tad shortsighted.

Just my 2p worth

Cheers

Garion

motthehoople 02-07-10 12:57 PM

Unacceptable Copy Protection
 
That's it for me too. Just cancelled my advance order of SH5 with Amazon.

lobomarinho 02-07-10 01:08 PM

It is impressive how stupid UBI Soft can be.

After reading all this forum I have decided no to purchase SH5 with DRM.

I enjoy my privacy and to have to be connected to the internet to play SH5 is a no go alternative for me.

It seems that GWX is going to be my continued favourite.

Letum 02-07-10 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by motthehoople (Post 1260981)
That's it for me too. Just cancelled my advance order of SH5 with Amazon.

Welcome to the forum and to the SHV sit-out club.

Schultz 02-07-10 01:57 PM

I can't understand what happens if you are connected to there server, it won't affect your privacy, even Gta 4 needs to be logged in GFWL and no one said anything.

Rip 02-07-10 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by infernos (Post 1261019)
I can't understand what happens if you are connected to there server, it won't affect your privacy, even Gta 4 needs to be logged in GFWL and no one said anything.

But you don't have to use GFWL for GTA that is your choice. I play all the GTA games routinely and don't need to be connected to the internet at all.

GFWL is in itself intended to be used "online" that is what the Live is for. As such many people myself included choose not to ever install it. The only game client I use is Steam and it has an offline option for those times following a hurricane or the like when my connection isn't available.

The Enigma 02-07-10 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by infernos (Post 1261019)
I can't understand what happens if you are connected to there server, it won't affect your privacy.....

It's up to you if you feel your privacy has been compromised or not.
Everybody has it's own limit when the privacy line is crossed or not.

However, there is no guarantee what UBI will record from you while connecting to their servers.

History has proven that companies aren't too shy in gathering all kind of stuff about you, despite all the promises of them to not abuse your privacy.

Lord Biceps 02-07-10 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Enigma (Post 1261040)

History has proven that companies aren't too shy in gathering all kind of stuff about you, despite all the promises of them to not abuse your privacy.

The usual promise is that they won't pass on the information to "third parties", whatever that means.

Méo 02-07-10 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Enigma (Post 1261040)
It's up to you if you feel your privacy has been compromised or not.
Everybody has it's own limit when the privacy line is crossed or not.

However, there is no guarantee what UBI will record from you while connecting to their servers.

History has proven that companies aren't too shy in gathering all kind of stuff about you, despite all the promises of them to not abuse your privacy.

Good post. :up:

Although I'm not going to speak here about what is my conception of privacy, I don't want to start another drama (i.e. would probably be off-topic).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Biceps (Post 1261046)
The usual promise is that they won't pass on the information to "third parties", whatever that means.

Yeah, that's another good point!

Schultz 02-07-10 02:32 PM

Words, I need proof


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