Seems to work out just fine for me.
For some reason my copy of Fallout 3 does not insist that I stay connected to the internet whenever I play it.
Strange.

Apparently not
Nor large parts of Aus as posters have already posted
Or those in rural areas
Meh
As long as Trenken can play all is well and the rest of us can go whistle

Then it's absolutely crystal clear that you have no idea what you're talking about in terms of modding as it relates to the SH series.

You actually "believe" this?

Noone said it needs constant connection, just that it needs internet to launch it, unless you're using FOSE, which I dont. Its a way to bypass the Steam and GFWL log-ins. I dont use it though.

If you have internet to launch a game, you should have it to run it. This is a single player game, its using the server for very minimal tasks. You could probably stream a movie while playing this game and I think you'll be just fine.

No, I'm not. I'm posting from my local library. I'm on a very limited income, and the simple price of a regular connection is way out of my league. If the wave of the future is doing things that way, then I guess I'll go back to playing the old games, and maybe read more.:dead:

Trenken really now... for someone accusing us of having zero knowledge about DRM... it's just.... GOD!

DRM has been around since the first game where you had to put a floppy in just to play it. Double so for Cd's back in the 90's. Back then a hard-disk was sometimes 10 times smaller than a CD.

After the CD blanks and recorders came around, the companies had to implement disk-checking. That was also broken either through emulating the disk or changing executable files.

Fallout 3, Spore, Mass Effect 2 all fall into this category. Even Steam games! Heck, it only took a month to crack GTA4. Most games get cracked before they get to the shops!

99.9% of games share this easy to brake DRM that is more or less intrusive on the player that actually buys the game:
- some require online activation at first start (Spore)
- some require online check at every start (3d Sex Villa, shut up :oops:)
- Most require the DVD to be in the drive through Starforce, Securom or other DRM's
Most players just get cracks for them to prevent damaging their disks. I have a few mint-condition games myself, never removed from box.

Then there are games that have been cracked but also provide Online features for which you do need to register online and BE online: L4D, all MMO's, Rise of Flight. Again all of these have MULTIPLAYER as their main attraction.

SH5 will be the first game ever to require you to stay online permanently to play in OFFLINE! What part of that don't you get? If you have a good net connection, good for you, most of us don't.

You're right, ive only been playing these games for many years now. Im just not stuck in the past, thats all. Modding is over, let it go. Its up to ubi, so ill just roll with the flow. Crying about it here will do nothing for me.

Yeah thats just the way it will be. Everything is on the internet now, a time will come when you cant even buy physical media anymore, digital distribution is the natural progression of things. That wont work for you at all.

Just saying, they cant worry about every soul on earth.

Yeah, how dare they not be willing to move house. Absurd!
I've never seen someone on these forums in all my time here that acted like a little self-absorbed child playing some Halo game.. I guess no forum is free from such "people".

Poor you when you have a total power outage. You might not survive it.

But the point is that SH5 WILL need a constant connection the whole time you are playing.
Which is one of the reasons why people here are getting so annoyed.
Not really comparing like with like are you?

But repeatedly arguing your opinions is giving you thrills?

It could kill modding (though that didn't stop SHIII from having some truly awesome, epic mod content added over time)...but here's the problem with that: The ability of modders to keep people interested and active and excited about a game is one of the KEYS to having a long-lived series with a strong sales base. Without the ability to mod the silent hunter games, their appeal wanes over the course of a few months and it goes dark. :yawn:

The modding of SHIII has kept it relevant even now several years later (in the virtual computer world, that's a millenium or an age, speaking figuratively). The modding of SHIV made the game playable and fun and pushed the graphics engine to new heights. :yep:

I'd be stunned if the lead devs didn't constantly look at and play with the mod content for these games to mine the best ideas out and incorporate them in the next evolution of the SH family. The release of garysmod has kept HL2 and the source engine relevant even now several years after its release. Community modders are, again, pushing the source engine to its limits and I'd bet valve are constantly watching and taking notes for their own benefit. :yep:

Freespace 2 has/had the same thing going for it. :yep:

The common vein of ALL of these examples is the same. Free use of the software without cumbersome DRM controls allowed people to invest the hundreds and thousands of hours of their personal effort to improve a game they love. :damn::damn::doh: :salute::yeah:

As much fun as I have playing LOTRO, I routinely get burnt out because it's all the same types of gameplay over and over and over. I get new content when the developers decide to make it and sell it. Silent Hunter is not a "game" so much as a "brand" and a huge slice of that brand is a thriving amateur programmer modding community.

We don't know how this DRM will work, but it's sounding like something that would fundamentally alter the guts of the brand and exclude the possibility to see some of the truly AWESOME mod work that this community can produce. :down:

I get all that buddy boy. Did you read the part where Ubi said you will need to INSTALL the game on your machine? This is NOT an MMO, data from 100s of players is not being streamed to you at all times.

My point is if youve got a connection to launch it, such as is the case with Fallout 3, then you should probably have a connection after that, and all this game is doing is dealing with game saves and stat tracking. If you're on broadband im pretty sure you could stream a freaking movie and play this game, wait and see.

If you're on dialup, well these games arent made for you. Go play checkers online or something.