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Jimbuna 05-13-15 06:55 AM

After careful consideration and discussion with Neal we have decided to merge this and the Tories threads together.

There is no accusation of foul play or anything else but it is felt one thread on the theme of UK politics is sufficient and in keeping with the previous decisions taken on topics involving Obama and gun control etc.

In addition it gives everyone the opportunity to submit their comments on whichever party and whatever policies they would like to comment on.

BossMark 05-13-15 11:02 AM

Perhaps the Tories have gone too far in privatising the NHS.

I've just been told I have McAIDS.

Oberon 05-13-15 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2313635)
After careful consideration and discussion with Neal we have decided to merge this and the Tories threads together.

There is no accusation of foul play or anything else but it is felt one thread on the theme of UK politics is sufficient and in keeping with the previous decisions taken on topics involving Obama and gun control etc.

In addition it gives everyone the opportunity to submit their comments on whichever party and whatever policies they would like to comment on.

Works for me, Jim. We can slag the Tories off and discuss the politics seriously in one thread, I'd wager. :yep:

STEED 05-13-15 12:23 PM

What about the rest of the world?

We Brits understand it but they may get...:-?

And think us Brits are.. :88) :doh:

OK..in the name of democracy which we have none..:/\\!!

Sorry rest of the world democracy here on SubSims :up: but not in the UK :o

:/\\!!:/\\!! All right! :ping:

Rockstar 05-13-15 01:49 PM

Im confused, Do you vote for a prime minister or do you vote for a party and they decide who represents them?

Also what good is having a monarchy if the Queen (or King) cant say to hell with it, off with his head!

Torplexed 05-13-15 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar (Post 2313702)
Im confused, Do you vote for a prime minister or do you vote for a party and they decide who represents them?

Also what good is having a monarchy if the Queen (or King) cant say to hell with it, off with his head!


They're national symbols, public relations mascots, and a moneymaking industry all in one. They divide their time between charitable work and having entertaining scandals.

Besides, the alternative, a President Cameron (or Presidents Brown, Blair, Major, Thatcher, etc.) is so repellant a concept to your average Brit as to kill the debate about killing off the monarchy.

Besides, think of all the tabloid reporters who would be without a job if the Royal Family weren't there to provide them with stuff to get outraged at? :D

MGR1 05-14-15 02:53 AM

President Anthony Charles Lynton "Tony" Blair.:o

That's got to be the best advertisement for keeping the Monarchy you can think of!

Along with the thought of Fat 'Eck being President of an independent Republic of Scotland......

Mike.:03:

Oberon 05-14-15 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Torplexed (Post 2313779)
They're national symbols, public relations mascots, and a moneymaking industry all in one. They divide their time between charitable work and having entertaining scandals.

Besides, the alternative, a President Cameron (or Presidents Brown, Blair, Major, Thatcher, etc.) is so repellant a concept to your average Brit as to kill the debate about killing off the monarchy.

Besides, think of all the tabloid reporters who would be without a job if the Royal Family weren't there to provide them with stuff to get outraged at? :D

Indeed, God help us, a President Cameron or a President Brown...egads, it's enough to make your hair curl.

The Monarch can't shut down a parliament, the Fixed-term Parliaments Act of 2011 removed that particular power. It's not been used in the UK by the monarch since 1834 anyway, and I think even overseas it's handled by the Governor-General, it certainly was in Australia in '75 anyway, and it's very rare and must be very serious for the Queen (or King) to actively get involved in a parliamentary crisis.
The shadow of 1640 still hangs over our monarch-parliament affairs, the monarch remembers that the last monarch to try to rule without parliament had his head removed, and parliament remembers the dismal failure that was the English Republic. :03:

STEED 05-14-15 07:07 AM

I see in the news UKIP is at war with its self first Douglas Carswell saying he dose not need to use the £650,000 in full and UKIP goes a bit potty telling him he must. On this one I will defend Mr Carswell who shows common sense just a shame the rest of Westminster MP's don't with their money.

Moving on..

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Nigel Farage has become a "snarling, thin-skinned, aggressive" man, UKIP's election campaign chief has said in a powerful attack on the party leader.
Economics spokesman Patrick O'Flynn told The Times Mr Farage risked turning the party into a "personality cult".
And a senior UKIP source told the BBC that Mr Farage should face a leadership contest.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32732129

Well to a point I agree Farage stepped down and there for if he wants the leadership again stand in the leadership election. Just because his fan club said no you must stay dose not mean he can say well my fan club has spoken.

Oberon 05-14-15 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by STEED (Post 2313827)
I see in the news UKIP is at war with its self first Douglas Carswell saying he dose not need to use the £650,000 in full and UKIP goes a bit potty telling him he must. On this one I will defend Mr Carswell who shows common sense just a shame the rest of Westminster MP's don't with their money.

Moving on..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32732129

Well to a point I agree Farage stepped down and there for if he wants the leadership again stand in the leadership election. Just because his fan club said no you must stay dose not mean he can say well my fan club has spoken.

Indeed, it was a savvy decision by Carswell. I don't like UKIP but I think he made the right choice, however Farages fan club seem to be ready to try to keep him in power wherever they can. That kind of thinking will destroy the party with a civil war if they don't watch out. :hmmm:

Jimbuna 05-14-15 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2313683)
Works for me, Jim. We can slag the Tories off and discuss the politics seriously in one thread, I'd wager. :yep:

Yep, that's the general idea matey :yep:

STEED 05-14-15 07:31 AM

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Russell Brand admits he '********* up the election' for Ed Miliband and Labour


http://www.express.co.uk/news/politi...and-and-Labour


Over to you BassMark for comments.

Jimbuna 05-14-15 07:41 AM

So what makes him think there are any more than a handful of people who actually take any notice of him? :hmmm:

BossMark 05-14-15 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by STEED (Post 2313834)

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politi...and-and-Labour


Over to you BassMark for comments.

Dont like him at all, he is about as funny as toothache and I doubt that he cost us more than a handful of votes at the most........

STEED 05-14-15 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2313838)
So what makes him think there are any more than a handful of people who actually take any notice of him? :hmmm:

He has a big following on FaceBook from what I hear, wonder how many he lost now. :hmmm:

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Originally Posted by BossMark (Post 2313843)
Dont like him at all, he is about as funny as toothache and I doubt that he cost us more than a handful of votes at the most........

Straight to the point. :)

I don't know if Ed made a mistake getting interviewed by that moron was a mistake but without question RB is a right plonker.


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