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Torplexed 03-17-11 09:29 PM

As if things weren't bad enough.

Japan's Mt. Fuji was rocked yesterday by a significant magnitude 6.2 earthquake, at a shallow 10km depth. This puts the quake around were likely the mid-crustal magma chamber would be.

The last eruption of Fuji in the 1700's followed a few months after by a magnitude 8.4 quake in a similar location to the recent 9.0 event.

The quake occurred along a transform fault zone that splits off from the subduction zone, and ends/intersects at the Mt. Fuji Magma Chamber.

At this point both USGS and EQECAT both are stating that it is unclear if this is related to potential volcanic activity or not. All webcorders for it are offline for now, so unable to determine if there are aftershocks, chugging, or any tremors.

Based on the historical eruption patterns, and that Mt. Fuji is at the apex of two transform faults, each that intersects with two separate subduction zones, does seem to hint there may be a small potential for volcanic activity.

Type941 03-18-11 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Torplexed (Post 1621865)
As if things weren't bad enough.

Japan's Mt. Fuji was rocked yesterday by a significant magnitude 6.2 earthquake, at a shallow 10km depth. This puts the quake around were likely the mid-crustal magma chamber would be.

The last eruption of Fuji in the 1700's followed a few months after by a magnitude 8.4 quake in a similar location to the recent 9.0 event.

The quake occurred along a transform fault zone that splits off from the subduction zone, and ends/intersects at the Mt. Fuji Magma Chamber.

At this point both USGS and EQECAT both are stating that it is unclear if this is related to potential volcanic activity or not. All webcorders for it are offline for now, so unable to determine if there are aftershocks, chugging, or any tremors.

Based on the historical eruption patterns, and that Mt. Fuji is at the apex of two transform faults, each that intersects with two separate subduction zones, does seem to hint there may be a small potential for volcanic activity.

:damn:

Hōei eruption


The Hoei Crater, visible to the right of the peak of Mt. Fuji, was the location of the 1707 AD eruption that spewed ash as far as Edo.
The latest eruption, in 1707 (the 4th year of the Hōei era), was known as the great Hōei eruption. It followed several weeks after the Great Hōei earthquake:
November 11, 1707 (Hōei 4, 14th day of the 10th month): The city of Osaka suffers tremendously because of a very violent earthquake.[2]
December 16, 1707 (Hōei 4, 23nd day of the 11th month): An eruption of Mt. Fuji; the cinders and ash fell like rain in Izu, Kai, Sagami, and Musashi.[3] This eruption was remarkable in that it spread a vast amount of volcanic ash and scoria over a region as far away as Edo.

WIKIPEDIA source.

Oberon 03-18-11 07:26 AM

I know that another volcano towards the south woke up again the day after the 'quake. She had been erupting beforehand but stopped, then the 'quake happened and she started up again.

It's all interconnected. :dead:

EDIT: Read the Wiki article on Fuji eruptions...she certainly could go up...overdue for a clearing...I just hope that she doesn't, it would be the last thing that Japan needs.

DarkFish 03-18-11 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Dowly (Post 1621458)
I've heard the culture is pretty much so that everyone tries not to draw attention to themselves.

*ahem* cosplay *ahem*
;)

the_tyrant 03-18-11 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkFish (Post 1622077)
*ahem* cosplay *ahem*
;)

over there everybody does cosplay!:D



anyways, did anyone here manage to get their hands on Iodine pills?
you stockpiling them?
how much did you get it for?
from what i hear on the news, its not so useful for people in the US

but lots of my dad's friends are asking for it
apparently, in China iodine pills are not available, people are stockpiling iodized salt

Dowly 03-18-11 10:40 AM

Soo.. is it still too early for a Tide goes in, Tide goes out -joke? :hmmm:

HunterICX 03-18-11 10:48 AM

I saw on the news today that more Japanese firemen are heading towards the plant to try to cool it however they can...brave men in my books already especially since in some area around the plant has a radiation level high enough to get your anual dose in 6 hours.

HunterICX

MaddogK 03-18-11 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ASWnut101 (Post 1621518)
Well first, the reactor is normally full of water and steam under very high pressures (around 950-1000 psi). Trying to drop large amounts of any loose material would be very difficult due to the pressure differential, and the fact that liquid water is flowing upwards through the core would mean little "dirt" would actually reach the core and stay there.

Second, BWRs have a steam dryer directly above the reactor core. This is the primary reason why the control rods are inserted from the bottom, as there's a bunch of crap blocking insertion from above. It would also have the effect of blocking any safety material dropped from the top.


The reactor is flooded with neutron absorbing materials in emergency situations. A boric acid solution, to be specific. Doesn't change the fact that there's upwards of 10 Megawatts of heat inside the pressure vessel not caused by fission between fuel elements. The reactor was built with all of the failsafes and safety systems shared by other third-generation BWRs.


Because the fission is completely stopped by the control rods alone. A full scram of the reactor will stop fission. If all of the rods are not raised, the boric acid injection system will start.

The remaining decay heat comes from fission processes within the fuel elements themselves, and is impossible to just stop. You can prevent the elements from interacting with each other, but the rest is all internal.

Is there any reason they couldn't override the turbine trip, to help remove the residual heat ?

...or was the control room also in the basement, next to the backup generators.

DarkFish 03-18-11 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by the_tyrant (Post 1622110)
over there everybody does cosplay!:D

well at least we did:D
http://i525.photobucket.com/albums/c...2/SAM_0249.jpg
we used that pikachu suit as punishment (for puking after binge drinking, losing your subway ticket, oversleeping etc.)

tater 03-18-11 05:53 PM

Good blog by a nuke tech guy.

http://wormme.com/

Catfish 03-18-11 06:15 PM

By the BBC:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ll-people.html

Nothing to add.


P.S. Our co-worker is safe in Tokyo we are told.

Madox58 03-18-11 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by HunterICX (Post 1622250)
I saw on the news today that more Japanese firemen are heading towards the plant to try to cool it however they can...

I'd think a line of them takeing a piss on the needed areas is the plan?
:hmmm:

Bakkels 03-18-11 06:45 PM

I presume making me laugh with that remark is the plan? :nope:

robbo180265 03-18-11 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 1622626)
By the BBC:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ll-people.html

Nothing to add.


P.S. Our co-worker is safe in Tokyo we are told.

Thats actually from the Daily Mail , which is a newspaper (and I use the term lightly) thats only a step or two up from the Sun.

I would wait until you hear from a more credible source before panicking.

Edit to add latest news from Japan

http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2011/03/79511.html

Madox58 03-18-11 07:55 PM

Truthfully?
I give a piss less if you laugh or not!
(Pun intended!)
When you see the videos of the wasted water by chopper stuff?
You should be crying!
And I can only wonder WHY it took so long to send in the trucks to spray water.
Last time I looked?
Japan is not that damned big!
I can drive to Texas in less then 16 hours!
And that is a long freaking haul from Ohio!


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