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jeff lackey 03-19-07 10:29 PM

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Well, when I take a screenshot and look at it in ACDSee or Photoshop, the info is that it is 1024x768, even when I've "set" the resolution higher.

Also, when I set the resolution higher in the options, then restart the game, the resolution (as well as the music setting) is always back to 1024x768, and music on. The gameplay settings are fine, and the graphic options (other than resolution) stick.

Hey jeff change it in the Cfg and see if it sticks. Maybe if this is true its just another crappy bug, and its not sticking in the CFG file.

You know, I had a thought, and sure enough the main.cfg file in my My Documents/SH3... etc folder was set as read only. Easy fix...

Onkel Neal 03-19-07 10:32 PM

Since this seems to be the single biggest negative about the game, merged.

nhall70 03-19-07 10:32 PM

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My Samsung has a native res of 1280x1024....so I really did not see anything weird. But....this is nasty :-?

My 19" Samsung 931B runs at 1280x1024, too. I use the Radeon 1650 Pro. I guess either I am used to this and didn't notice, or it doesn't look that bad on my screen.

DragonRR1, which mission is that? I will take a screen and see how it looks on my system.

Also, if I am not mistaken, can't this game be played in a window, for people with gigantic montiors? Educate me, I don't know a lot about this.

I'm not sure if SH4 will run in a window or not but it's not common for games to support windowed mode these days.

However, the problem is that I have a 24" widescreen moniter with a native resolution of 1920x1200. If I run SH4 in a window at 1024x768, it would literally take up less than 1/4 of my screen.

This would pretty much kill the immersion factor I'm afraid. :-?

evil666 03-19-07 10:34 PM

mh, punch me, afaik, to run a game in window mode needs a bit more performance than run it in fullscreen. but i could surely wrong. :hmm:

Sectus 03-19-07 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by evil666
@Sectus

what kind and type of monitor do you use?

21" 4:3 CRT monitor.

RickC Sniper 03-19-07 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens
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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens
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Originally Posted by Kruger
My Samsung has a native res of 1280x1024....so I really did not see anything weird. But....this is nasty :-?

My 19" Samsung 931B runs at 1280x1024, too. I use the Radeon 1650 Pro. I guess either I am used to this and didn't notice, or it doesn't look that bad on my screen.

DragonRR1, which mission is that? I will take a screen and see how it looks on my system.

Also, if I am not mistaken, can't this game be played in a window, for people with gigantic montiors? Educate me, I don't know a lot about this.


Absolutely, you can force 4:3 aspect ratio and get the nearly square screen. (I can do this in my geforce video card control panel, it isn't windowed it's just forcing 4:3 aspect.)


BUT: The higher the native resolution of the monitor the worse a lower resolution looks, even at the 4:3 scale.
Ever see a high def widescreen tv recieving an analog feed? Utterly horrible.

Onkel Neal 03-19-07 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by nhall70
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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens
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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens
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Originally Posted by Kruger
My Samsung has a native res of 1280x1024....so I really did not see anything weird. But....this is nasty :-?

My 19" Samsung 931B runs at 1280x1024, too. I use the Radeon 1650 Pro. I guess either I am used to this and didn't notice, or it doesn't look that bad on my screen.

DragonRR1, which mission is that? I will take a screen and see how it looks on my system.

Also, if I am not mistaken, can't this game be played in a window, for people with gigantic montiors? Educate me, I don't know a lot about this.

I'm not sure if SH4 will run in a window or not but it's not common for games to support windowed mode these days.

However, the problem is that I have a 24" widescreen moniter with a native resolution of 1920x1200. If I run SH4 in a window at 1024x768, it would literally take up less than 1/4 of my screen.

This would pretty much kill the immersion factor I'm afraid. :-?

Ok, I guess my next naive question is, if you run it windowed, with a black wallpaper, will the overall size of the window be the same as someone with a 19" monitor at 1280*1024 ? And the image quality would be better? Next question (and I am not trying to be a smart ass here :)) what do other games look like on your 24" freaking huge montior? (Ok, that freaking huge part was uncalled for, but I'm jealous). How do they accomodate the theater size montiors?

I guess it comes down to running it windowed, or skipping it.

flintlock 03-19-07 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by nhall70
I have a 24" widescreen moniter with a native resolution of 1920x1200. If I run SH4 in a window at 1024x768, it would literally take up less than 1/4 of my screen. This would pretty much kill the immersion factor I'm afraid.

That's an understatement.

Even little 15" 4:3 LCDs use a native resolution of 1280x1024. You'd have to find a 13" 4:3 LCD to support an XGA natively.

flintlock 03-19-07 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens
I guess it comes down to running it windowed, or skipping it.

The challenge some may also encounter is this: although you can cancel scaling via your driver settings, some LCDs will override this and rescale it across the entire screen again. The only way around this is if the game supports windowed mode, and unfortunately many do not.

RickC Sniper 03-19-07 10:48 PM

My older games pretty much all support my 1680x1050 native resolution (22 inch monitor) and I run them at 4:3 aspect ratio. They run fullscreen top to bottom with some wasted area on the sides. They look fine, if they run at that resolution....at 800x600 or 1024x768 pretty crappy.

Onkel Neal 03-19-07 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by flintlock
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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens
I guess it comes down to running it windowed, or skipping it.

The challenge some may also encounter is this: although you can cancel scaling via your driver settings, some LCDs will override this and rescale it across the entire screen again. The only way around this is if the game supports windowed mode, and unfortunately many do not.

Ok, I didn't realize this. Of course, you are talking to a guy who has been using a 17" monitor from Wal-mart for 6 years... I just bought the 19" LCD a few weeks ago. Honestly, I think SH4 looks brilliant. I guess maybe it doesn't on 24" montiors. Are other games like Halflife 2 and Age of Empires 3 able to run and look good on those montiors?

You could always by my 17" for SH4... cheap! :yep:

nhall70 03-19-07 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens
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Originally Posted by nhall70
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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens
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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens
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Originally Posted by Kruger
My Samsung has a native res of 1280x1024....so I really did not see anything weird. But....this is nasty :-?

My 19" Samsung 931B runs at 1280x1024, too. I use the Radeon 1650 Pro. I guess either I am used to this and didn't notice, or it doesn't look that bad on my screen.

DragonRR1, which mission is that? I will take a screen and see how it looks on my system.

Also, if I am not mistaken, can't this game be played in a window, for people with gigantic montiors? Educate me, I don't know a lot about this.

I'm not sure if SH4 will run in a window or not but it's not common for games to support windowed mode these days.

However, the problem is that I have a 24" widescreen moniter with a native resolution of 1920x1200. If I run SH4 in a window at 1024x768, it would literally take up less than 1/4 of my screen.

This would pretty much kill the immersion factor I'm afraid. :-?

Ok, I guess my next naive question is, if you run it windowed, with a black wallpaper, will the overall size of the window be the same as someone with a 19" monitor at 1280*1024 ? And the image quality would be better? Next question (and I am not trying to be a smart ass here :)) what do other games look like on your 24" freaking huge montior? (Ok, that freaking huge part was uncalled for, but I'm jealous). How do they accomodate the theater size montiors?

I guess it comes down to running it windowed, or skipping it.

LOL :rotfl: It's ok, I'm not offended.

Most current games support 1920x1200 resolution natively in fullscreen mode. Of course it takes a pretty hot graphics card to run a game at this resolution but most games don't prevent you from doing this if you've got the setup for it.

You know, running windowed is actually the best suggestion I've heard yet. I might actually be willing to give that a try, but it's hard to imagine being satisfied with it. It's been many years since I've run a game windowed.

Onkel Neal 03-19-07 10:54 PM

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LOL :rotfl: It's ok, I'm not offended.

Most current games support 1920x1200 resolution natively in fullscreen mode. Of course it takes a pretty hot graphics card to run a game at this resolution but most games don't prevent you from doing this if you've got the setup for it.

You know, running windowed is actually the best suggestion I've heard yet. I might actually be willing to give that a try, but it's hard to imagine being satisfied with it. It's been many years since I've run a game windowed.

Well, I can imagine it's not the best solution. :oops: It seems each Silent Hunter game has been a little behind the curve on resolution. SH2 ran at 800x600, in early 2002. We had some clever guys make a conversion kit to get it up to 1024x768x32. Are you telling me 1024*768 res is dated? :rotfl:

flintlock 03-19-07 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens
[Are other games like Halflife 2 and Age of Empires 3 able to run and look good on those montiors?

I can't speak for AoE as that's one strategy title I don't own, though HL2 looks fantastic, as it supports 1920x1200 (the native resolutions on 24" LCDs).

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You could always by my 17" for SH4... cheap! :yep:
lol - no doubt. :D

evil666 03-19-07 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Sectus
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@Sectus

what kind and type of monitor do you use?

21" 4:3 CRT monitor.

already a nice dimension. it's sort of weird to run the game in 1024x768, i would guess. :hmm:


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