I can understand that, and if it was only used for fighting against terrorism then that would be all well and good...but it won't be, and can we really trust the government with that kind of power?

Christ, listen to me, I sound like a Yank... :o

And that is the Elephant in the room, career politician's can not be trusted and a career politician that is a Prime Minister! We need something in place by the everyday voter and that something will see 100% that this snooping is not going to be used against the general public.





24 hours later at GCHQ...Make a Red File for this STEED bloke can't have him telling it straight. Intercept all his emails & letters and find out what newspapers he reads and why he eats pot noodle.

2016 BUDGET DAY

Will George Osborn be kissing you or slapping you in the face or a bit of both. We are hours away and the leaks don't sound very nice. :hmmm:

Always give it a good 24/48 hours after for independent number crunchers to spell out their findings. :03:

Well, Jamie Oliver is going to be happy with this budget, and so will big and small businesses, but everyone else...

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Borrowing up growth down well well well what a turn around from last year...Ah of course they had to hide that to win the general election. This will allow time now for people to forget and get taken in with his big last give away budget before the next general election to return these rats to office.

BossMark old Gids tried to buy your vote with no increase on a pint are you buying it?

The price of Coke~Zero better not go up or I will be mad.

Nope I didn't as no goon of toff boy will buy my bloody vote :nope:

Watching SKY News last night doing their newspaper review and one of the guests pointed out very little was written about the Labour opposition. Only one paper wrote a few lines and this was the worst reporting for 30 odd years!

Looks to me like he is rewarding those who have money at the expense of those most in need of financial assistance.

Most surprising to hear JC say something I could agree with.

Without the LibDem millstone around their necks they were free to do as they please. Some organization will be releasing their findings latter today, they are edging towards what you said jim.

Osborne will never get this country back in the Black all he has done is kick the can down the road, as for his sugar tax seems research around the world points to failed here and there.

Well the vote is almost in from those organizations that are not pro or anti government and its clear, a budget for the well off.

Gids the well off do not spend money like the rest of us to survive so their contribution to kick starting the economy is like a a winters morning before Datsun cars came to the UK...Cough cough sputter sputter cough sputter..."Dam you £$£$^^&$@@:@%^£^$£$^&&$"£".

His attack on the disable has gone down well for his leadership challenge but the backbenchers are tutting. If he shuts that lot up it will put him in a even more better position.

Meanwhile old Gids is dirty Gids..:rolleyes:
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Well, a bit of good news for the disabled, it seems that the planned cuts are going to get 'kicked into the long grass' since it looks like enough Conservative rebels would have voted against it to negate the slim majority that the Tories have in parliament.
Bravo to the Tory rebels for having a heart and a conscience. :yep:

Nosferatu has resigned!
Apparently it's in protest at the treasurys pressure to increase cuts to benefits, but given his track record I'd say it's getting out of the door before Gideon can blame him for the revolt.

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Current status of the Conservative government.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35848687

IDS's track record tells me he did not do this as a caring person but more like a political game of chess.

Now this is interesting for the leadership candidates, Gids has over stepped the mark and if the UK votes to stay in the EU Boris will be spent. This leaves Busty May in a better position maybe. :hmmm:

Wow all this beef in Coca~Cola direction seems to a little off the mark. Yes lots of sugar but not No.1 or 2 or even 3.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-35831125

I like Coca~Cola Zero because I can taste the coke and not a mouth full of sugar. The problem here is the government needs to look at milk shacks and fruit drinks as well which are just as loaded with sugar.

We are still in this all together, meanwhile in No.10..

Dave - "More champaign George?

George - Top' o Dave, fresh pig?

Dave - Bang on, here piggy piggy piggy.

Right lets get to it..

There may be more to IDS stepping down than meets the eye, his former department is under pressure to release expenditure figures about Universal Credit. For nearly four years now the DWP has refused to make those figures public and now two judges are on the verge of getting those figures released. Speculation about UC expenditure points to a very costly scheme that is still riddled with flaws.

IDS approved these budget plans and now after the budget a backlash has started and IDS sees a opportunity to look good and step down. No I am not buying it, nor am I buying he stepped down over the EU debate so he can focus much more time on that.

Yeah, he definitely stepped down before he could become the scapegoat for a system that clearly hasn't worked. It's a pretty heavy blow for the Tories and Labour has a wide goal to take advantage of, will be interesting to see how much hay they can make out of it.
Meanwhile, Stephen Crab has become the new Work and Pensions Secretary, a man who voted in favour of the cuts, comes from a Council Estate™, likes to talk about God and will likely be just another IDS but with added manscaping.
Just earlier this week his own constituents sprayed 'Why do you hate the sick?' on his office, so that's probably what got him the job:

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I was reading about Stephen Crab on a news site and noted in the comments this person has him as their MP. They think he is useless and a nasty piece of work. Looks like old Gids has a new Axe man to deliver his death blows. :rolleyes:

I applaud the resignation of IDS but looking back at his voting record I would have to ask "Why the sudden conscience change?"

As for Gideon, this is his third or fourth publicly humiliating climbdown so I suspect his credibility and chances of becoming the next PM have taken a severe downturn.

One B'stard out another bigger B'stard in. As for the leadership challenge old big hooters May is now the front runner. It has come to light Gids is like Himmler wants more and more power which is creepy and he could become the real power behind May or Johnson or who ever else throws their hat in the ring. If he fails to make a come back. :hmm2: