great work RFB team! just want to thank you for this.

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first kill ?

after patrolling two areas west of the Philippines, plagued with premature torpedoes and duds.. didn't kill anything in that first convoy then :

went to Appari, missed a Chitose... :nope:

then moved to the Luzon straight, spotted a convoy coming down, had only one bow and one aft torpedoes left, aimed, fired, dove to 223 feet and crawled away..

one was a hit ! :DL

it finally stopped, I hit just forward of the engine room I think.

now look above : I crept in to finish it off later with the DG, gravity beat me to it it seems !

keltos out

I am using the latest version, and so far my crew is blinder than with previous versions - at night. So far I only played single missions. But it might be down to my monitor. :)

Thanks for all the work on RFB 2.0

And Thor your level bombing guide is great. (will hopefully need a new one when Bob/Sow finally comes)

Will upgrading from 1.52 to 2.0 and patch and RSRDC_RFB from 4xxx to 575 and patch at same time work fine if done in a port mid career? Or should I start fresh career?

Also is anything from RE 1.0 or PE4 an upgrade to the environment in RFB 2.0, I read both the RFB152 and PE4 manuals, and read threads and cant tell, since RE / PE4 overwrites much of rfb 2.0.

edit: in particular from RE 1.0 will installing #1 RE mod Install and #2 Submarine splash and roll pitch mod with new sound for stock sh4.

And in a nutshell whats the differences between RFB and TMO. I believe back when 152 was newest I chose RFB for more realism? Cant find a link even on dev site or post other than newest changes to the full readme on tmo, and I dont have the bandwidth to waste dl'ing the whole thing for the readme.

Thanks for your help, time is too short when playing AoD, testing HOI3 rc's/ playing HOI3 mp, IL-2 mp , FSX passx and AH careers, SH5 and SH4 and others, I run out of time to read everything in these threads, I was up to speed at 1.52 but not now. And with SH5 a let down (great engine with excellent potential though, I know the devs arent at fault) realism wise concerning ship sinking and ai and sub damage never mind other things, Im back to SH4 and just testing out new sh5 mods.

Anyone have a file for sh4voice to work with RFB 2.0 commands?

Cheers

Hi Chromius. I'll try to answer your questions the best I can. Firstly, I never tried TMO, but I can tell you RFB is geared more towards realism. Secondly, you should be OK installing the mods (RFB, RSRD) mid campaign, but be sure you're in port befor doing so. If you're mid patrol, you're asking for trouble. Finally, RFB now incorporates the PE mod in it. Hope that helps you out.

Ok , I did bother to read the last 33 pages. So I am sorry if I missed anything.


Thanks for those answers Fish40
Ok, the RFB / TMO is answered and the PE4 is answered.

Other questions before I start my 100% fresh patrol.

Is the TGT DIALS TO PK FIX _RFB mod integrated/needed?

Is SAP v.05 an Improvement to RFB?

RE 1.0

I see PE4 is integrated into RFB2.0 but the new RE 1.0 which combines the best of PE4 and ENV5 does seem to be an upgrade. I installed it and it does look better in my personal opinion (I must of got corrupted by my short stint with the SH5 eye candy, but I need to take screenshots. )

Does RE 1.0 the #1 part of the mod only, overwrite anything that affects RFB 2.0 realism for visual ranges ect......?

And yes I am another victim back to SH4 after finishing careers in RFB 1.52 and OM and was waiting on SH5. Heck with SH3 I think before GWX was refined RUB was what I used at that time too, GWX 3 was out much later though worth the wait.

edit:And the fog beta fix from page 30 is gone? Can I get a copy?

Thanks for your help.

1 suggestion/consideration.

In looking at crew placements for the control room and conning tower, I think that swapping the 8th/last control room position which places a man at TDC in conning tower with the 3rd position in conning tower where crew member is standing at small map table in conning. And make the 3rd Conning tower position appear at Conning Helm position would allow for more realisistic crew swapping for those that may bother when surfaced and submerging, that way either the control room or the conning helm can be manned as needed.

Also I know the special skills are being worked on, but I think it might be better if the Primary (Blue) skill was left as the top skill showing, and we only see the special skill (green) when selecting the crew member , it would make the special skills less obnoxious when crew members who have no need of them have them. And I am forced to click on them to ensure I have the correct blue specialty crew member on duty.

edit: Or maybe I have a bug, bow planesman is not showing up (full control room,full conning) unless I call General Quarters then the bow planesman appears? WAD?

Once I finish integrating the Narwhal, I'll release the patch. Hopefully sometime this week.

Sadly, this is hard-coded and can't be changed.

The last two slots for each watch rotation in the control room are for the planesman. The best and most realistic way to simulate this is to take two enlisted men from each bridge watch and move them to these slots when submerged.

Doesn't RFB have slightly modified version of RE 5.0 instead of PE?

What ever it includes I think it is the best looking water of any super mod. I just couldn't get over the way too transparent water in TMO. :O:

Yeah, it's my bad:oops: I mentioned a couple of posts ago to someone that RFB includes PE, when indeed it is RE ( the teamwork of Kriller and WClear). Sorry for the screwup.

Warning

The current version of RSRDC for RFB "will not" be compatible with this patch. A new version ( v580 ) will be released at the same time as this patch.

RFB and OM
 

Effective immediately, OM is no longer compatible with RFB. Code review has determined that files in OM that are also in RFB will cause an adverse effect on gameplay in RFB.

Any users that are currently running OM on top RFB showed de-install OM immediately and play on "stock" with OMEGU.

Yes I understood that. I found a bug in that I had upgraded from 1.52 and patch to 2.0 and patch in port. Which is when these 2 slots were added and on my Gato class the Bow planesman would not show up regardless of filled slots. (8th control room slot was actually putting man at TDC for me) I had it all written down. I tried a single player mission and a new career and all worked fine. I needed to start back in an S-18 class anyhow and see the improvements.

On the crew position is this all moddable for where the crew is placed when positioned, the only fault I have is that I can not have someone manning the conning helm position as it was often used in real life? I would like to add a slot for the conning helm position, or swap one control room position for it.

I dont want to slow you up on RFB 2.0+ and any SH5 you may have in the works though? Maybe you could point out the files and such that need to be changed in editor, I would like to fumble around, if its possible?

edit: And not to be a pain in the ass (which im sure i am) but is this the environmental mod incorporated into RFB now? Real Environment.

http://174.123.69.202/~subsimc/radioroom/showthread.php?t=149596

Yes, it is.

The other questions I'll answer later. No time at the moment.

It's odd to be asking this after three years of SH4 play, but I can't recall if damaged equipment actually becomes inoperative within the game or at what level of damage it becomes so. I play so cautiously that I'm very rarely damaged in RFB, and it's either very light or inevitable fatal.

Last night I actually had all four stern tubes get between 50and 70% damage, but I never checked if that made them unavailable ingame. Does it? Or do they actually have to be destroyed? If so, can this be tweaked at all? I would think it wouldn't take much damage at all to make periscopes (for example) essentially useless until repaired.

BTW, Ed Beach's Submarine! has an entertaining chapter about the machinations required to keep Trigger's ice-cream machine running at all times.

Jolo
 

second patrol, after having scouted two areas, i'm free in the Celebes sea.

cruising next to the coastline near Jolo, spotted a minesweeper, followed it at flank speed on the surface to try and gun her down...

and stumbled across this :

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:o

she was rejoining a convoy !

as it was heading away from me at 9 knots, I could only cry...

Looks like it's already after 3pm... shadow them till nightfall, then either do an end-run and ambush them submerged, or execute a surface attack from behind. In the dark it works.

I have the crew composition in order for the Narwhal. I hope you guys like having a large crew. :o It'll look like half the Navy is on your boat.

can't wait, I'll offer to beta test!

EDIT:
also, I couldn't get any AA guns on the boat. radars weren't showing anything so on, are those going to be tweaked too?