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Oberon 11-26-15 02:02 PM

Gods own emissary to the Labour Party, Tony Blair, has said that he supports Camerons position on bombing in Syria.

If ever there was a reason to vote against it, there it is.... :dead:

BossMark 11-26-15 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2361714)
Gods own emissary to the Labour Party, Tony Blair, has said that he supports Camerons position on bombing in Syria.

If ever there was a reason to vote against it, there it is.... :dead:

Blair would probably bomb his granny, if there was something in it for him....

Oberon 11-26-15 05:57 PM

Ken Livingstone on BBCQT made a good point in that bombing on its own just isn't enough, and that we shouldn't get caught up in that. What we need is a concerted air and ground offensive by the UN, with Britain involved. :yep:

Jimbuna 11-27-15 09:51 AM

Yeah, was funny seeing Ken getting ripped apart by Matt Forde over his previous stance of standing against Labour :)

Like Forde, I also left the Labour Party the day after Corbyn was elected.

Now that Jeremy has come off the fence and decided not to support Cameron over Syria despite his shadow cabinet and parliamentary members being in a majority for said action....will he do the honourable thing and step down?

I think not....he will continue to take the money and the position and resign his party into an unelectable entity for many a year to come....and that is what annoys me because I am certainly no Tory voter.

STEED 11-27-15 10:29 AM

We should all pull out and defend our own countries, stupid politicians have made a right mess and all they can do is throw more petrol on the fire while they ponce around on the world stage.

I have to agree to that caller to a radio station who served in the Army.

STEED 11-27-15 01:34 PM

It's time to put my money down on the betting table.

Jeremy Corbyn stand point has rocked Labour over Syria and those who do not agree with him on this and other issues don't breakaway now and form a new party they will never never breakaway.

Jimbuna 11-28-15 09:08 AM

Corbyn is now feeling isolated over Syria with it looking increasingly likely he can't stop the wave of feeling in his shadow cabinet or parliamentary members. These members were elected by their constituents to represent hem and their views.

So what is Jeremys next move?.....He'll go to the party membership who voted for him (I received an email from him this morning, not that he got my vote and despite the fact I'm no longer a party member) and try to outflank those that were democratically elected.

You're not looking very clever in the eyes of the nation Jeremy. Time to stand down as other politicians have done in the past when failing to control their party.

Somehow I doubt you will though....seriously farcical.

STEED 11-28-15 10:25 AM

JC is in charge of spineless gits who moan a groan but will not breakaway. I got more respect for the gang of four who formed the SDP.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/image...5_sdp2_300.jpg


Not just JC to blame the whole lot is a shower but don't tell the right wing press that they are too busy putting the boot in on JC, try booting the rest as well gutter press.

British politics is a sham, we got a clown in No.10 who wants to follow Blair's footsteps in blood and as for the LibDems....Where the hell are they these days? The whole political system is rotten to the core and stinks more than the days when the Thames was a open sewer!

STEED 11-28-15 11:02 AM

Quote:

Shapps Resigns After Tory Bullying Claims
http://news.sky.com/story/1596185/sh...ullying-claims

Stand by for Tory White Wash Job.

Moonlight 11-28-15 12:18 PM

One down and one more for the chop, Lord Felman should be the next one to resign as well me thinks. The questions I ask myself is, why has Shapps resigned if he says there is no evidence of any bullying, and did Cameron tell him to resign before he was pushed.:hmmm:

As for the Labour MP's they should all hang their heads in shame, they've turned a once proud party into a bleeding laughing stock, begone with you, the whole bloody lot of you.:/\\!!

Oberon 11-29-15 11:07 AM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CUv8qLyXIAIm106.png:large

Oberon 11-29-15 11:48 AM

Good opinion piece in the Grauniad:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...P=share_btn_tw

Jimbuna 11-29-15 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2362291)
Good opinion piece in the Grauniad:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...P=share_btn_tw

Rgr that :yep:

STEED 11-29-15 12:43 PM

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“We can’t go on like this.” That’s the cry now to be heard from all points of the Labour spectrum, left, right and centre.
Over throw JC or breakaway and form a new party got that you stupid farts, if you fail to act on these two choices I suggest you shut your moaning cake holes and shove it where the sun does not shine.


^The above statement is for the labour party

Jimbuna 11-30-15 02:34 PM

Labour MPs to get free vote on Syria. I doubt he had much choice because the alternative was to be overrun with resignations from members of his own shadow cabinet as well as MP's.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34967024

Quote:

Mr Corbyn's spokesman said the shadow cabinet had "accepted his recommendation" of a free vote.
Is that as much as they could muster in the 'face saving' department?

Quote:

BBC chief political correspondent Vicki Young said Mr Corbyn wanted Labour to oppose air strikes, but was forced to back down by his shadow cabinet.
The leader was given a "thorough kicking" in the meeting, she was told.
Much closer to the truth I suspect.

Oberon 11-30-15 03:15 PM

He's got to learn that he can't have it all his way, he may have the 'the membership voted me in' line that he can use but he can't work a shadow cabinet with no-one in it. :dead:

Jimbuna 11-30-15 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2362603)
He's got to learn that he can't have it all his way, he may have the 'the membership voted me in' line that he can use but he can't work a shadow cabinet with no-one in it. :dead:

I'm still waiting on what the Corbyn Labour Party policies are and wondering how long it will be before the party membership grow tired of him.

STEED 11-30-15 06:00 PM

Useless government useless opposition....We are truly screwed and deep in do-do.



I am wondering if Billy Connolly was right..

http://images.goodfood.com.au/2012/0...illy-200x0.jpg
“The desire to be a politician should bar you for life from ever becoming one.”

"Don't vote. It just encourages them.... "

Oberon 12-01-15 12:57 AM

It's pretty rare for the Big Yin to be wrong.

So, we're 48 hours from war, although the SNP will vote against, so we'll see how many Labour members go with the Tory vote. It'll be a close run thing but I think we'll be seeing Tornados over Aleppo before the week is out.

Plus ca change, and all that.

Jimbuna 12-01-15 10:53 AM

It will also see the introduction of the RAF Typhoons into a war zone for the first time.


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