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Tribesman 09-30-13 01:20 AM
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How, exactly, is gun registration "treason"?
I am still waiting to see if he knows anything at all about imports and exports.
It would appear he thinks that currently there is a magic fairy that would take his Berettas registration # and make sure it is stamped "made in Italy" before he signs for it and pays any duty due.:03:

TarJak 09-30-13 08:41 AM
I'm still waiting for a coherent argument for his assertions. Mind you I think I'll be waiting a long time.

Bubblehead1980 09-30-13 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by razark (Post 2121168)
How, exactly, is gun registration "treason"?

You seem extremely hung up on that point, yet you have never shown how "registration" equals, or necessarily leads to, "treason" (see below). Without that link, you appear to be foaming at the mouth crazy. Show that link, and you have a better chance of winning people over to your side. Scream that it's so obvious and rant about how blind people are, and you're just doing harm to those that agree with you by making them look stupid and insane by association.

Okay, registration compelled by a treaty with other countries, information gathered submitted to a foreign body(the UN) is our government signing over some degree of sovereignty to a foreign body, this falls within the definition of treason.Giving a foreign body or nation authority and information on our citizens as to what guns they import ? That is treasonous behavior.

TarJak 09-30-13 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980 (Post 2121510)
Okay, registration compelled by a treaty with other countries, information gathered submitted to a foreign body(the UN) is our government signing over some degree of sovereignty to a foreign body, this falls within the definition of treason.Giving a foreign body or nation authority and information on our citizens as to what guns they import ? That is treasonous behavior.
Only if they are enemies. The definition in the constitution is very clear on that point.

Jimbuna 09-30-13 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by TarJak (Post 2121313)
I'm still waiting for a coherent argument for his assertions. Mind you I think I'll be waiting a long time.
You can put your house on that.

TarJak 09-30-13 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2121521)
You can put your house on that.
That's why I offered up the readies earlier. I knew I wouldn't have to open my wallet. Fancy a pint?

Jimbuna 09-30-13 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by TarJak (Post 2121533)
That's why I offered up the readies earlier. I knew I wouldn't have to open my wallet. Fancy a pint?
After tonight's result...oh yes :huh:

TarJak 09-30-13 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2121538)
After tonight's result...oh yes :huh:
Good it's your round. :O:

Jimbuna 09-30-13 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by TarJak (Post 2121542)
Good it's your round. :O:
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Bubblehead1980 09-30-13 04:20 PM
Yes, you disagree so you mock, no arguments on how registration on imports compelled by a foreign entity violates our sovereignty and those leaders who sign on to this are in fact traitors.Tell me why they are not? Because you can't, you agree with this treaty.

Tribesman 09-30-13 04:50 PM
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Yes, you disagree so you mock, no arguments on how registration on imports compelled by a foreign entity violates our sovereignty and those leaders who sign on to this are in fact traitors.Tell me why they are not? Because you can't, you agree with this treaty.
They mock because you still offer nothing of substance at all.
Might I suggest that you get one of your legal professionals at your school to explain article 8 to you.
I know you say they all know nothing about law, but their job titles would certainly suggest otherwise.

AndyJWest 09-30-13 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980 (Post 2121548)
Yes, you disagree so you mock, no arguments on how registration on imports compelled by a foreign entity violates our sovereignty and those leaders who sign on to this are in fact traitors.Tell me why they are not? Because you can't, you agree with this treaty.
The facts are clear - the treaty isn't with enemies of the United States, therefore it isn't treason.

Bubblehead1980 09-30-13 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by AndyJWest (Post 2121568)
The facts are clear - the treaty isn't with enemies of the United States, therefore it isn't treason.
Does not have to be an enemy, I could betray our country to canada or israel, still a traitor just same.Also, the UN is an entity that consists of many nations, some are enemies, Russia for example? Yea, exactly.

Tribesman 09-30-13 04:58 PM
[QUOTE][The facts are clear - the treaty isn't with enemies of the United States, therefore it isn't treason. /QUOTE]
But Iran and N. Korea are the enemies.
But errrrrrr.... they hate this legislation don't they.:hmmm:
Does that mean people who oppose the legislation are the ones doing TREASON!!!!! because they are aiding and giving comfort to the enemies of the US:har:

AndyJWest 09-30-13 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980 (Post 2121569)
Does not have to be an enemy, I could betray our country to canada or israel, still a traitor just same.Also, the UN is an entity that consists of many nations, some are enemies, Russia for example? Yea, exactly.
When did the United States declare war on Russia? I must have missed it... :har:


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