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soopaman2 07-14-13 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2084004)
And i thought this was Snowden, animated:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvMduWKHNpY

And after an older member telling him about the NSA world view, he went straight to Hong Kong :O:


Oh darn, you tube blocked in my country. I am sad, I wanted the laugh! :(

soopaman2 07-14-13 01:28 PM

At this point let him go, damage is done.

He already gave the contents of his 4 laptops to China and Russia.

All the American spy agencies can do is put out the fire.

Or continue to moniter my dirty text messages to my wife while she is at work. :haha:

Skybird 07-14-13 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2084015)
I reckon he'll still have one ace up his sleeve....the password to a secondary account on SubSim :03:

Accoding to German FOCUS magazine, which refers to The Guardian, Snowden still owns several thousand files of critical and sensible value, stored in several places worldwide.

Whistleblowing and spying, the latter is punishable, the first already Bush tried to turn into a punishable crime, but I think it is not and should not be - as long as you do not wish to destroy the poor remains of what before was called a free press. Obama just follows in Bush's footsteps here.

In the end, any opposition and any criticism of the government should be criminalised. If that cannot be done legally, then you threaten and try to intimidate anyone blowing the whistle. The case Valery Plame, anyone...? ;)

P.S. The Guardian's Greenwald told Argentinian newspaper La Nación that Snowden still had more information to do within a minute more damage to the US than anyone ever did before him. He also said that this nevertheless is not the intention of Snowden.

He does not want to compromise content and pieces of sensible information, but wants to disclose to the Americans the amount of their government's spying against the American citizen.

Two days ago, German FAZ had this interview with a science moderator who is quite known over here in Germany (he is not my cup of tea, nevertheless, I just say he is a popular face on TV). Ranga Yogeshwar put it this way: "Be ready to understand that in our time every citizen is a life-long suspect to his government". He also explains what it means that more and more we are not being held accountable to what we already have done, but that we are being held accountable for what gets predicted we eventually may do in the future. To me, that is a nightmare scenario, and a destruction of one of the most profound pillars of civil law and order society. I would also add that it has most dramatic consequences that no longer politicians understand that they are accountable to the people, but that politicians demand people to be accountable to them.

http://www.faz.net/aktuell/feuilleto...-12279206.html

Mittelwaechter 07-15-13 08:09 AM

If my future will be count as predicted, how can I be free?

http://rt.com/news/snowden-nominated-nobel-peace-099/

Jimbuna 07-15-13 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Mittelwaechter (Post 2084430)
If my future will be count as predicted, how can I be free?

http://rt.com/news/snowden-nominated-nobel-peace-099/

I can't say I'm all that surprised.

Ducimus 07-15-13 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by soopaman2 (Post 2084132)
At this point let him go, damage is done.

This administration? Your dreamin!

nikimcbee 07-15-13 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus (Post 2084538)
This administration? Your dreamin!

Don't forget, he's a Chicago- Southside politician. Snowden will be at the bottom of Lake Michigan soon enough. :dead:

Mittelwaechter 07-15-13 07:00 PM

http://rt.com/news/activist-question...ting-walk-136/

That's the way to go...

BossMark 07-16-13 10:25 AM

I am off on a flight to Russia. I want to see Edward Snowden and ask him the one important question that everyone wants to know the answer too.
How many more extra size bars of Duty Free chocolate can you eat without needing emergency dental treatment?

Ducimus 07-17-13 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolferz (Post 2085679)
It seems now that Senator Lindsey Graham (R) South Carolina wants the US to boycott the 2014 winter Olympics in Russia.:har:

Armistead, it's time they recalled this RWNJ wouldn't you say?

Mr speaker Boehner said "redonkulous" or words to that effect and is still calling Eddie a traitor. Well, I say, it takes one to know one.:down:

It's not just a republican thing, both parties are
a.) In someone's pocket. See Oligarchy.
b.) in power.

Those in power, do not like it challenged, nor threatened. Things like what snowden has done, challenges their power, and disrupts the status quo. Keeping status quo is all our politicians want, regardless of what side of the isle they sit on.

Wolferz 07-17-13 04:38 PM

Preaching to the choir Duci.

See through them I can.

Mittelwaechter 07-18-13 10:09 AM

http://rt.com/usa/carter-comment-nsa-snowden-261/

Tuesday!

Mittelwaechter 07-18-13 10:12 AM

http://rt.com/usa/carter-comment-nsa-snowden-261/

Tuesday!

Does US media comment on this?

soopaman2 07-18-13 11:15 AM

I cannot hate this man, I still kinda despise him though.

All bull-stuff aside, this man only confirmed what most of us suspected.
(Patriot act been around awhile, and not all of us bought into it, when presented)

My concern is the fact the chinese and Russians, had access to his 4 laptops, which makes the treason charge justifiable, are you all so nieve, that you think he got a free ride all this time from these kind nations who happen to be buttbuddies?

Ducimus 07-18-13 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by soopaman2 (Post 2085964)
I cannot hate this man, I still kinda despise him though.

Snowden? I don't hate or love him. To me he's just a guy, I can't call him a patriot, and I can't call him a traitor. My attention and ire, hasn't been on him, but what came out of him.

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All bull-stuff aside, this man only confirmed what most of us suspected.
(Patriot act been around awhile, and not all of us bought into it, when presented)
True enough. However, there's a difference between "I think", and "maybe" and "ahh, just conspiracy theory garbage" to, "Confirmed", "true", "real", and "Holy crap!"


Quote:

My concern is the fact the chinese and Russians, had access to his 4 laptops, which makes the treason charge justifiable, are you all so nieve, that you think he got a free ride all this time from these kind nations who happen to be buttbuddies?
I'm at odds with myself on his laptops. If all they contain is information about the NSA's unconstitutional program, then i say, "GOOD!". In my view the whole program they have going there needs to be dismantled and done away with. The more information that comes out about it, the better. If enough data is out on it, then they'll have no choice.

If it contains information OTHER then the NSA's program, then that's a whole different critter. The name Benedict Arnold comes to mind.

But since there's no way to know what exactly he has, I find myself unable to form a opinion about him.


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