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See post one for new Minefield map by Silent Steel (for any Ui).

Thanks SSteel:yeah:

Quick question, I'm getting CTD when I attempt the Breaking the Fortress mission. I've tried 3 times and it CTD's every time, I even attacked the tanker first and same result. Now when I fire at the BB, it CTD's just before impact, but with the tanker it CTD'd on impact. I know the BB would probably detect the torps (T1's) in the final stage of their journey whereas the tanker probably wouldn't, so I'm suspecting it's related to alert state?

And also, as I've been shifting mods around to find a working order my game would differ between patrol 1 and patrol 2 (where I attempted the mission). Could this be a cause? Should I try starting a new career with a mod loadout and stick with it until I can have a go at the BB again? Seeing as flags are affected after a mod reload it seems feasible no? I did post this in the Mod Loadout/Order thread but as yet no answer.

Regards,
Damo.

Hi Damo:salute:

Yes - this seems to be a common CTD. I have been looking at the cause for a while now with no luck finding it.

This ctd happens with or without OHII but for some (myself included) it does not happen.

I think it could be one of two reasons.

1 - When torp hits a target, the action stations being triggered is causing it. Could it be with a re-action set that the game is not finding. I have searched through the events and triggers but can fin nothing.
there was a trigger in verions before v1.3 where DDs were set to re-act, but I have removed this.
I have also removed all the spawn nodes and replaced them with direct placed ships, but if you are getting this with the tanker - then it was one of the direct placed ships so it has not fixed it.

2 - memory issues. I remember when I had my old PC, I would get this ctd with torp hit or torp detected when attacking a convoy that had more than say 20 ships. Upgrading my PC with 64bit OS and more ram and better graphics card has stopped all the ctds I was getting.
Scapa has many thing going on (just like a large convoy) and this could be the cause.

So are you using a 32 or 64 bit OS and have you added the 3 or 4 gig patch. Also what is you graphics and ram?

Re: switching your mod load - I do know that this can cause a frozen flag issue - but it sorts itself out with the next patrol. I would not think this is the cause.

Thanks for the reply. My system should be well capable of handling things:

W7 x64 Ultimate
Phenom 2 x4 955 Black Edition
8GB Kingston Hyper X (2x 4GB)
Gigabyte GTX 460 OC 1GB

All drivers up to date, windows update is up to date.

SH5.exe is v1.2, with TDW's patch (hydrophone fix) and 4GB patch applied.

Before I went to Scapa (2nd patrol) I headed up the east coast and ran into a large unescorted convoy with 3 Troop transports 4 Large passenger ships and a bunch of large steamers that I proceeded to expend all my torps and ammo on giving me a total tonnage of 206000GRT (!!!) including some single freighters I ran into enroute so I returned to Wilhelmshaven (base changed mid patrol) and refitted and headed straight to Scapa as I only had 5/6 days before the BB mission expired. I saved about 100km from Scapa and have loaded that save without issue each time I've attempted the raid.

I'm currently finalizing my mod order and it is as follows;

No Logo Intro Menu_Animation v. 01.00 by AvM
No Damn Bubbles, No Damn Halo Mod
A Fistful of Emblems v1.51
A Fistful of Emblems v1.51 (Weathered)
MightyFine Crew Mod 1.2.1 Stock faces
MCCD_1.04
MCCD_1.04_MFCM_1.2.1_compatible
Dynamic Environment SH5 Basemod (realistic version) V2.1
Dynamic Environment SH5 Atlantic Floor V2.1
Dynamic Environmental SH5 Realistic Colors V2.1
Dynamic Environment SH5 Sounds V2.1
Dynamic Environment SH5 Waves (realistic version) V2.1
Dynamic Environment SH5 Undersea (temperate and polar) V2.1
Dynamic Environment SH5 DarkerNights V2.1
Dynamic Environmental SH5 Shallow Waters V2.1
Dynamic Environment SH5 Shallow Waters V2.1 Patch
Grossdeutscher Rundfunk
FX_Update_0_0_19_ByTheDarkWraith
IRAI_0_0_30_ByTheDarkWraith
NewUIs_TDC_6_9_0_ByTheDarkWraith
NewUIs_TDC_6_9_0_alt_officer_wounded_by_Torpedo
NewUIs_TDC_6_9_0_AltAdvSpeedGraphics_by_naights
NewUIs_TDC_6_9_0_ERM_Reaper7_NightVision
NewUIs_TDC_6_9_0_ERM_Reaper7_NightVision_Black_Ski n
NewUIs_TDC_6_9_0_New_radio_messages_German
Manos Scopes-patch for 16x9
stoianm pitch&roll for SH5 V1 (normal)
Harbour_Addition_Environment_Enhancement MOD v0.5 - Open_Horizons
OPEN HORIZONS II_full v1.6
mtns - more traffic, nations and ships 1_8a
mtns - OHII&HarbourAdditon_Fix_1_6b
mtns - Enhanced FunelSmoke1.2_by HanSolo78 (recommended)
OH II Campaign Radio Messages v4
sobers talking conning crew mod
TDW_Mines_Subnets_Detectable_in_hydro (OH II v1.6)
OH II Minefield map
sobers see thru wake fix
sobers 3D deck spray mod V7
sobers best ever fog V4 SH5
sobers real trees
sobers Type 7A rusty deck SH5
sobers darker ship bow spray
Critical hits 1.1 Torpedos
Critical hits v 1.2
Old Style Explosions V1.1
SH5Lifeboats_by_Rongel_TDW_stoianm_v2.1
TheDarkWraith_DC_Water_Disturbances_v2_0_SH5
Trevally Automated Scripts v0.6
Trevally Harbour & Kiel Canal Pilot v2.8
R.E.M_by_Xrundel_TheBeast_1.2
Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_byTheBeast
Equip_Upgrades_Fix_1_4_Patch_1_AFFOE_151
#Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1_HotFix
IO_StrategicMap_4_6_for_TDWv690
Accurate German Flags
Dark_Interior_V1
Loading Screens Mod
nVidia missing lights
Shadow Improvement Mod
Torpedo_Speed_Abilitie_Fix_for_TDC_SH5_v120
U-Boat Ballast Tanks SFX
Unterseeboot II SFX
Window_Lights_Redone_V1

Please note I have not attempted the raid with this list but will hopefully get some time later, although it's not that far different from what I had active before.

I guess I can live without the raid as I wasn't a great harbor raider in SH3 due to the fact it wasn't a common practice historically anyway, I'm only aware of Prien's venture. If as you say the DD's don't react it seems too easy and I have a long history of making things hard for myself, haha.

On a side note, and maybe a little off topic, I saw something about side missions somewhere (dropping off spies and the like) but can't find it again. Is this part of OH, stock game or is it a separate mod do you know?

Thanks again,
Damo.

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Originally Posted by Damo (Post 1821064)

Thanks for the reply. My system should be well capable of handling things
Damo.

Oh yes. :up:
That can't be the culprit here.

I'm looking into your list now.
Will soon be back with my suggestions.

Too kind sir, too kind.

I just started a new career with that list, skipped tutorial and the game froze on the loading screen...

:down:

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Originally Posted by Damo (Post 1821064)

Thanks for the reply. My system should be well capable of handling things:

W7 x64 Ultimate
Phenom 2 x4 955 Black Edition
8GB Kingston Hyper X (2x 4GB)
Gigabyte GTX 460 OC 1GB

Yes - looks a good system and should be no issues there.

please see here for when I did this mission without issue.
Are you attacking the same BB?

You have a large mod list and with the harbour improvments you may want to try the 4gig patch. (it is a simple app to update your exe)

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On a side note, and maybe a little off topic, I saw something about side missions somewhere (dropping off spies and the like) but can't find it again. Is this part of OH, stock game or is it a separate mod do you know?

Thanks again,
Damo.

There are in the stock game, but for the most - you need to do many patrols on the same objective to get passed all the "patrol here" missions before you get to the drop spy ones. (each time you return to base and select the same objective on the briefing map - you get a new side mission)

OHII puts these missions near the top of the list - so for most they will be within 3 re-selections of the same objective - thus ensuring you can get them more often.

See here for an example for a drop of spy mission

Ah yes, that's where I saw the writeups on the side missions, thanks. Also, my .exe is already patched with 4GB largeaddressaware. BB is Royal Sovereign??

@ Damo - suggestions for your mods list

Changes in bold fonts - moved some. Furthermore a few suggestions.

No Logo Intro Menu_Animation v. 01.00 by AvM
No Damn Bubbles, No Damn Halo Mod
A Fistful of Emblems v1.51
A Fistful of Emblems v1.51 (Weathered)
MightyFine Crew Mod 1.2.1 Stock faces
MCCD_1.04
MCCD_1.04_MFCM_1.2.1_compatible
Grossdeutscher Rundfunk
FX_Update_0_0_19_ByTheDarkWraith
IRAI_0_0_30_ByTheDarkWraith
NewUIs_TDC_6_9_0_ByTheDarkWraith
NewUIs_TDC_6_9_0_alt_officer_wounded_by_Torpedo
NewUIs_TDC_6_9_0_AltAdvSpeedGraphics_by_naights
NewUIs_TDC_6_9_0_ERM_Reaper7_NightVision
NewUIs_TDC_6_9_0_ERM_Reaper7_NightVision_Black_Ski n
NewUIs_TDC_6_9_0_New_radio_messages_German
Manos Scopes-patch for 16x9
Dynamic Environment SH5 Basemod (realistic version) V2.1
Dynamic Environment SH5 Atlantic Floor V2.1
Dynamic Environmental SH5 Realistic Colors V2.1
Dynamic Environment SH5 Sounds V2.1
Dynamic Environment SH5 Waves (realistic version) V2.1
Dynamic Environment SH5 Undersea (temperate and polar) V2.1
Dynamic Environment SH5 DarkerNights V2.1
Dynamic Environmental SH5 Shallow Waters V2.1
Dynamic Environment SH5 Shallow Waters V2.1 Patch
sobers talking conning crew mod
stoianm pitch&roll for SH5 V1 (normal)
Unterseeboot II SFX
Harbour_Addition_Environment_Enhancement MOD v0.5 - Open_Horizons
OPEN HORIZONS II_full v1.6
mtns - more traffic, nations and ships 1_8a
mtns - OHII&HarbourAdditon_Fix_1_6b
mtns - Enhanced FunelSmoke1.2_by HanSolo78 (recommended)
OH II Campaign Radio Messages v4
TDW_Mines_Subnets_Detectable_in_hydro (OH II v1.6)
OH II Minefield map << Replace & check this http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=3476 :D
sobers see thru wake fix
sobers 3D deck spray mod V7
sobers best ever fog V4 SH5
sobers real trees << I'd disable this one
sobers Type 7A rusty deck SH5 << I'd disable this one
sobers darker ship bow spray
Critical hits 1.1 Torpedos
Critical hits v 1.2
Old Style Explosions V1.1
SH5 Lifeboats_by_Rongel_TDW_stoianm_v2.1
TheDarkWraith_DC_Water_Disturbances_v2_0_SH5
Trevally Automated Scripts v0.6
Trevally Harbour & Kiel Canal Pilot v2.8
R.E.M_by_Xrundel_TheBeast_1.2
Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_byTheBeast
Equip_Upgrades_Fix_1_4_Patch_1_AFFOE_151
#Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1_HotFix
IO_StrategicMap_4_6_for_TDWv690
Accurate German Flags
Sub Flags for SH5 v0.0.8 << Add this one
Dark_Interior_V1 << If you want your sub interior darker you could replace this one with;http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=3423
Loading Screens Mod
nVidia missing lights
Shadow Improvement Mod
Torpedo_Speed_Abilitie_Fix_for_TDC_SH5_v120
U-Boat Ballast Tanks SFX
Window_Lights_Redone_V1

BTW.
Have you tried thie d3d Antilag yet?
If not, do it. http://www.gamefront.com/files/user/BadgerFinn
Install first after reading the enclosed 'readme.txt' file.

Cheers

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Originally Posted by Damo (Post 1821084)

Too kind sir, too kind.

I just started a new career with that list, skipped tutorial and the game froze on the loading screen...

:down:

Hi Damo!

With mtns and the harbour improvements the loading time at the start of a new career is much increased. Also a black screen appear for some (1-3) minutes. The game looks like frozen.

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Originally Posted by Silent Steel (Post 1821153)

Have you tried thie d3d Antilag yet?
If not, do it.

Yes, this is in my main folder (manually added) and set to 35fps, although I disabled pre-fetch as I thought my system wouldn't need it. The fps limit does make it smoother though :yeah:

Thank you for the suggestions SS!!! :salute:

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Originally Posted by uekel (Post 1821197)

Hi Damo!

With mtns and the harbour improvements the loading time at the start of a new career is much increased. Also a black screen appear for some (1-3) minutes. The game looks like frozen.

That's an interesting bit of info, only tried to load it once so thank you. Arrggghh SH5 is slowly turning into SH3!!!! :rotfl2:

Regards,
Damo

using TDW UI mod and OH2 1.6 Full, which both seem to have radio messages in them, question is do i actually need another radio mod for campaign messages?
confused:hmmm:

many thanks.:salute:

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Originally Posted by fromhell (Post 1822008)

using TDW UI mod and OH2 1.6 Full, which both seem to have radio messages in them, question is do i actually need another radio mod for campaign messages?
confused:hmmm:

many thanks.:salute:

The engine for the radio messages comes from my UIs mod (it's a DLL that does it). OH2 adds some radio messages (txt files) to my radio messages folder so that you get campaign radio messages. Anyone can make radio messages and add them to my radio messages folder. I set it up so that it was user expandable :up:

there will be for Silent Hunter 5 beautiful New ports?

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Originally Posted by Damo (Post 1821064)

Could be the combination of mtns - more traffic, nations and ships 1_8a and Dynamic Environment SH5. Try deactivate Dynamic Environment SH5. :salute: