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Platapus 05-11-10 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord_magerius (Post 1388876)
Looks like it's pretty much settled now then :damn:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politi...10/8675265.stm


I hope he works out well for the UK. Good luck with this.

TarJak 05-11-10 09:50 PM

Well Clegg got what he wanted a chance to share power with teh big boys. Will be interesting to see how long the coalition lasts and how quickly the referendum for electoral reform is put forward.

Any preferences on models for the UKers?

SteamWake 05-11-10 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus (Post 1389282)
I hope he works out well for the UK. Good luck with this.

Ditto !


Good luck ... to us all !

Jimbuna 05-12-10 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Platapus (Post 1389282)
I hope he works out well for the UK. Good luck with this.

We may yet need it.

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Originally Posted by TarJak (Post 1389386)
Well Clegg got what he wanted a chance to share power with teh big boys. Will be interesting to see how long the coalition lasts and how quickly the referendum for electoral reform is put forward.

Any preferences on models for the UKers?

PR in its broadest form will never work because you will be almost guaranteed a hung Parliament every time.

Is it right that the smallest of the three major parties should more or less have the deciding vote on which of the other two come into power?

Definitely not.

The fact remains, some other countries have managed a way around this obstacle and I believe Australia is one of them....something about third and fourth alternative choices?

I'd appreciate you explaining your system down under.

TarJak 05-12-10 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1389645)
We may yet need it.



PR in its broadest form will never work because you will be almost guaranteed a hung Parliament every time.

Is it right that the smallest of the three major parties should more or less have the deciding vote on which of the other two come into power?

Definitely not.

The fact remains, some other countries have managed a way around this obstacle and I believe Australia is one of them....something about third and fourth alternative choices?

I'd appreciate you explaining your system down under.

We run two houses of Parliment (House of Representatives and the Senate), and the electoral systems are different for each house.

This give a fairly full explanation including the systems for the State governments. http://www.dfat.gov.au/facts/electoral_system.html

Put simply we have a preferential system which means you number your votes depending on your preferences for each of the candidates. therefore if there are 5 candidates standing in your local seat, you number your votes in order of preference from 1 being your first choice to 5 being your last coice. For the House of Reps we use a "full preferential" voting system:

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Under ‘full’ preferential voting each candidate must be given a preference by the voter. First, all the number ‘1’ votes are counted for each candidate. If a candidate gets more than 50 per cent (an absolute majority, 50 per cent plus one) of the formal first preference votes, the candidate is immediately elected. If no candidate has an absolute majority, the candidate with the fewest votes is excluded. These votes are then transferred to the other candidates according to the second preferences shown by voters on the ballot papers. If still no candidate has an absolute majority, again the remaining candidate with the fewest votes is excluded and these votes are transferred. This process will continue until one candidate has more than half the total votes cast and is declared elected.
This means in the main hung parliments are very difficult to come by unless the number of seats is too close to call but even this gets sorted out usually by the preferential system.

In the Senate you can either vote for every bugger on the ticket, which is across Australian not local seats, or vote for the party of your choice. Read the stuff on the link as it is the house of reps which determines the government and prime ministership.

We also have compulsory voting because we are slack buggers who largely couldn't give a rats clacker for who is in government as long as the price of beer doesn't go up to much. :D We always vote on a Saturday and I don't recall a situation where people have been still waiting to vote at close of play.

Jimbuna 05-12-10 06:55 AM

That looks interesting and may well be something the politicians here might want to consider.....oh if politics were only that simple :DL

Jimbuna 05-12-10 10:02 AM

We are no longer under the watchful Eye of our chosen Government.

Instead we have two! (eyes that is) :03:

OneToughHerring 05-12-10 10:05 AM

Nick Clegg reminds me a bit of Darling from the Black Adder - tv series. :haha:

http://melchettmike.files.wordpress....3/darling8.jpg

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/...inster-001.jpg

MILLANDSON 05-12-10 10:50 AM

It's the Alternative Vote system that is going to be the one put to a referendum for the House of Commons. It's basically just like First Past The Post, but a little more representative and at least means that each candidate has to get over 50% of the vote to win the seat, which is good.

At the moment, there is potentially going to be full scale reform of the House of Lords, with either part of the HoL, or all of it, being elected by full proportional representation.

Jimbuna 05-12-10 03:13 PM

Where the hell is STEED?

Hope he hasn't emigrated already :hmmm:

frau kaleun 05-12-10 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by STEED (Post 1388907)
Well that's a rap, this thread is done and dusted, see you all in 4 to 5 years if not early. :DL

Does this mean we won't get a season of Gordon Ramsay's Parliament Nightmares? Cuz I was kinda hoping for that.

Jimbuna 05-13-10 05:59 AM

Unbelievable!
The Tories in power for less than half a week and already a Scottish family is unemployed and homeless!

TarJak 05-13-10 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1390966)
Unbelievable!
The Tories in power for less than half a week and already a Scottish family is unemployed and homeless!

LMAO:har:

Jimbuna 05-13-10 08:39 AM

America thought they were being clever with the first black president.

Well we've outdone them with the first gay couple

MILLANDSON 05-13-10 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1391097)
America thought they were being clever with the first black president.

Well we've outdone them with the first gay couple

I'm going to assume that that's not a dig at gay people...

Otherwise... what's wrong with Clegg and Cameron being friends? Better than Brown shouting at and insulting his colleagues and staff.


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