I have found this site that walks a Windows 10 user through getting rid of the open book privacy issue with Windows 10. When I get a chance I will go through each step on my home computer with 10 to see what is what.

https://www.hackread.com/windows-10-is-spying-on-you/

Straight from MS:

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1. Safety and Reliability Data We collect a limited amount of information to help us provide a secure and reliable experience. This includes data like an anonymous device ID, device type, and application crash data which Microsoft and our developer partners use to continuously improve application reliability. This doesn’t include any of your content or files, and we take several steps to avoid collecting any information that directly identifies you, such as your name, email address or account ID.

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3. Advertising Data We Don’t Collect Unlike some other platforms, no matter what privacy options you choose, neither Windows 10 nor any other Microsoft software scans the content of your email or other communications, or your files, in order to deliver targeted advertising to you.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...ws-privacy-faq



With all the issues concerning Hillary and emails do we believe that MS has simply sent a new OS that allows them to check State Department emails and dump a list of contacts as well?

http://www.digitaltrends.com/computi...ws-10-privacy/

As far as MS not listening, they are. RR, you stated a few post back about accepting gross privacy invasion and everyone going outside to play, there are many like you that blow the whistle and get corporations to take heed. We are after all in the information age. I doubt MS thought that invading privacy with such ferocity(real or imagined) would not go unnoticed.

http://www.theverge.com/2015/9/28/94...cerns-response

From ZDNet.

http://www.zdnet.com/article/does-wi...er-spoiler-no/


What I'm finding from good sources appears to make the "Grand MS Conspiracy" anything but.

Yeah, but haters are gonna hate.

Fixed this for you :D

I made an addition. :O:

I took a look at the settings on my new machine. The privacy on/off buttons is quite extensive. From ad tracking to shutting down the camera not allowing any app use it at all. The privacy statement is quite clear. I really can not find cause for alarm. Ok, so new updates are installed automatically. That can be addressed as well.

BTW, I clicked on the button to stop Cortana from following my arse. She is now in the Gulag.

AVG,

You know you are now branded as a heretic and blasphemer right?
Anyone that posts ANYTHING the differs from the "SMASH MICROSOFT" BS is after all an idiot it seems.
:hmmm:

I'll give you all a clue. If your storing personal info on a system hooked to the 'Net?
Your an idiot and deserve your **** getting hacked.

I guess they haven't figured out that their ISP stores a whole lot more personally identifiable info on them, that their government can get anytime they want, without a warrant, by using NSL's. Info includes browsing history, searches, IP's, browsers used, ect. And all of it traceable by their name right to their web access point. And they are worried about MS collecting info.:nope:

I'm willing to accept that.

From what I have read, MS attempts to collect two pieces of information, what sites users visit so to target sales advertising for things said user enjoys. Second, how the user navigates the OS so MS can enhance/improve the OS product. I have found the user can opt out of both. Generally the question asked by MS is, "Would you like to participate..."

Tracing IP's and such appears to be a necessary evil. Years ago phone lines were traceable. Often tapped without warrant.

The articles I have posted fully rebutted each and every point you have made. They are from the most respected computer related watchdogs on the planet. Especially 35 minutes with Mr Barnacles Nerdgasm would be the only antidote you need to conquer blindness.

Now since Microsoft claims the right to access every character you type, every file you save, in fact, every file on your computer, claims the right to use any attached peripherals like webcams and microphones (almost all laptops have those), let's convince ourselves that Microsoft is the white knight in shining armor, never going to disrespect our soverignty over our personal lives.

Just like Norway, fine and meticulous record keepers that they are, carefully compiled records on the religious orientation of all its citizens as a metter of course, and of course, faithfully guarded that information against malicious use, when Germany invaded, there were complete records of virtually all the Jews in the country. It was child's play to round them all up to kill them. Italy, which had no such tradition of innocuous and harmless record collection, successfully resisted participating in the Final Solution, even though they were an ally of Germany not conquered by force as Norway was.

Moral of story, children friends: goodness does not justify invasion of privacy. Somebody bad can come into possession of the information and do evil things. Therefore it is not acceptable for Microsoft to collect this information even if they are our friends.

Reading the articles I have posted from a wide variety of experts, shows clearly that Microsoft is NOT our friend. We should be on our guard and defending ourselves.

As for the post that you slathered with "WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH WINDOWS 10" you opened the door to that discussion with a direct question, to which that post was the answer. Analogy is often the stronges argument, analyzing difficult to understand situations with universally understood situations.

But because they invade our privacy rights with a smile and a pat on the back it makes them MORE eggregious, not less harmful. The first step in a mugging is to disarm your victim. If it only takes a smile or a smarmy comment about "good faith" then all the better. What follows is still a mugging.

It's amazing to me that governments all over the world, including that of Republican George Bush were suing and prosecuting Microsoft in the early 2000's for restraint of trade and monopolistic practices merely for including Internet Exploder in Windows. Now with truly gangster tactics being used, those same people are winking, giving Microsoft the old thumbs up and giving excuses for their bullying. I'm not willing to give them a free pass. And I will continue to provide information for the benefit of those who are similarly concerned.

That information is not directed to those who don't want to listen. It is directed for those who can see the truth. Sometimes I include information in a reply, not for the benefit of the specific person I'm replying to, but the benefit of others reading the thread. Sometimes I talk about historical situations where similar behavior came to a bad end. In doing so I knowingly leave myself open to the attack that I am not responding to the subject at hand. I believe, however, that history has lessons to tell and by paying attention to it we might not have to make the same mistakes others have already paid the price for.

Microsoft is not acting in good faith, for the benefit of its customers or in accordance with long accepted standards of business behavior. They are acting as a predator and we are its prey.

Fun assignment for the week: Visit a bank and get the branch manager to utter and define the words "fiduciary responsibility." Then then have them explain how a computer program that bounces the maximum number of checks (example: you are $50 overdrawn because of a $50 check. Instead of bouncing the one check, the computer program will bounce as many smaller checks as it can to increase bank income from fees.) is an exercise of the bank's fiduciary responsibilities to its customers. Ask them if their bank uses such a program. Be prepared to be disgusted or thankful that your bank knows right from wrong.

Rocking Robbin:

Belittlement is not necessary.

The articles I have posted rebutted your articles. None are points that I have made. These articles are from MS and valid sources.

No sir. It was stated by you and Skybird that one could get denied insurance. I countered with what insurances do you two speak off. There are after all more then one kind of insurance.


Although I do not appreciate the belittling, I do appreciate your taking time to point out MS dealings concerning their OS. However, as a consumer of products and services we here in the US have a choice not to use products and services that are flawed. Further, I understand MS is not my friend. Most if not all "friends" in any industry disappear after the contract is signed. I'm truly wondering when you will understand MS is a business that wants to make money. If you would like to us their product they will ask to do certain things during the use of said product. You have the right to decline and find another avenue to enjoy the internet. I do not understand the vendetta with MS.

You are a prolific writer RR, informative reads, all.

I'm curious, if you have Win7 64 as I do, did you do the dot Net & Office updates last month? I haven't - yet - I can't seem to find a definitive answer on those two.

Don't laugh (or cry), I'm still running Office Outlook 2003 because I like it. I let web-mail sort out the spam online, and only download from those on my 'white-list'.

When installing updates that I 'need', do I re-configure (disable entirely) the GWX_control_panel?

For years I have researched and hand selected any updates that MS has offered and hid the unnecessary ones - especially thankful for that practice since I uninstalled the first instance of the nag screen and related Win 10 files approx 5 months ago.

I ask because we have 'Update Tuesday' fast approaching again.
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Thanks RR.
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4 Dec 2014 Update Edit:
I updated the dot Net and MS Office 2003, however today there was more KB # info on the sites & forums I look at; Ask Woody et al, and found the two new additional updates listed were suggested by most to keep hidden until more info was available. One had to do with a USB I don't even have.
The three new Optional updates listed I hid as usual - and as suggested.
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Rocking Robin:

The Barnacles Nerdgasm that was laid off by MS? Now I see the vendetta.

Translation: I have a BIG MOUTH. I am not shy about sharing a room with a strong opinion.

I always apply the .NET and Office updates. I also use Office 2003 (wonder how long that will last) because I like it better. I'm also going to do a survey to see what the experts have found out about the lethality of last month's updates and will post what I find. I expect to be applying some of those, hiding the rest and having a clear deck for update Tuesday this month.

GWX Control Panel only changes settings pertaining to updating to Windows 10. It doesn't change your update settings for other updates. Folks, watch out as Microsoft has already announced that Windows 10 will download itself and at least partially install on Windows 7, 8 and 8.1 machines during the first quarter of 2016. This will apply even if you have no interest in Windows 10. Shields up!:up:

Here's another article calling out the Win 10 bashers:

http://www.zdnet.com/article/dont-le...ff-windows-10/

And from a guy who primarily uses OS X.

People willing dump their information on Facebook and Google yet Windows 10 is a gather of information looking to take over the world.

This gentleman analyzes it nicely: