I'll show you how the right angle fits into this :woot:

What the hell happened in here?

Cliff notes?

(I only skimmed the first and second to last pages)

A. Greyrider presented a method that was incomplete, as it did not explain a fatal flaw in the method as presented.
B. People asked for clarification on the flaw.
C. Goto A. Add more and more insults from Greyrider each iteration.

Short Vesion: If you keep the target at an 80°/280° constant bearing (<=> establishing a collision course) its AoB is 10°. Ahhh and if you think differently you're an ignorant low life and probably a Rockin Robbins victim with no mind of your own. And you don't understand greatness even if it slaps your face!

:DL

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I was his favorite.:D

Uhhhhhh......we'll stick around to clean up the mess. Target destroyed though!
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Really a pity. I thought it started off rather good and made a good discussion. This thread should've taken a better route mid-way. Someone
could've just admitted they tried hard and just lacking. I'm sure many of you brains have gone this route working something out and you hit on something. Nothing wrong with trying, but when it becomes obvious, man up and say good try.

Then it became silly. Grey knows he's wrong and just kept at it trying to
stir people up. It's possible he could contribute much more, because he ain't dumb, just immature, now he'll forever be a mute.

Well, that IS the pity. While the specific details of 8010 were garbage, the principle of keeping a target on a constant bearing is a guarantee that if they are approaching your courses will cross because you are on a collision course.

But that was the beginning and end of 8010. There was nothing special or desirable about the 8010 relationship. You could not shoot with 8010, just get close to your target. Actually the strategic aim of basic approach strategy is to be able to take advantage of larger and larger AoB's, not restrict yourself to a 20º cone, so his whole idea of 8010 was against the entire body of US Navy tactics as explained in the Submarine Torpedo Fire Control Manual.

Ignoring the overall theme of the entire manual, he misused a single formula to imply that there was something special about an 80º bearing and a 10º angle on the bow. Had he been willing to let go of his obsession he would have had a valid approach, but not targeting tactic. The rules would have been much more general and adaptable and people would have thanked him for it.

And I get the idea that he's not young. He's apparently had some life experiences, perhaps even in the military, scary as that is... He'd certainly be the commander from hell, unable to benefit from the input of his subordinates. Lots of that sort in business today, so sure of their own rightness than they reject all ideas they have not thought of themselves.

Ah, it's the whole Greek tragedy thing... hubris and all that rot...

award
 

This thread should get an award at the end of the year. But what award could do it justice?

I'd vote for "Ig-Nobel that doesn't get it"!

Wow I missed a lot when I was away. :-? :D

joea
 

Hit the 'back' key and step away from the keyboard, don't prod this sleeping bear of a thread, LOL.:03:

This was one thread that did not need to be dug up. :nope:

To quote Pet Semetery :Sometimes dead is better. :yep:

Something smells really bad in here. Best to leave it alone.:D

Go find some really good Strongbad E-mails.:up:

on second thought
 

i should not have posted.

If you hadn't posted I wouldn't have had an excuse to plug Strongbad E-mails and there would be fewer people who have had a good laugh today.